Actor and activist Tony Goldwyn joins Sam and talks about how he rides the waves of success—sometimes people want you and sometimes they don’t—and how he’s learned to be ok not chasing roles that weren’t right for him. They also talk about how at a pivotal moment in his career Tony decided to stay in New York and do a small Off-Broadway play rather than chase the LA scene. He tells Sam that since playing a president on Scandal people have come to him for presidential advice, how he actually has spent time lobbying Congress, and what his rewatch policy is.

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