Brent Gunning, co-host of Leafs Nation, joins Ailish and Justin to discuss the Maple Leafs’ failed Denis Malgin experiment, Sheldon Keefe experimenting with a five-forward alignment on the power play, and David Kampf’s importance to the bottom six. Later, Katie Heindl, writer for Dime, SLAM Magazine and Yahoo Sports Canada, stops by to chat about the Raptors’ performance against Philly on Monday, why talks of a rebuild might be premature, Masai Ujiri’s history of not making any panic moves, and Scottie Barnes’ season thus far (26:47).

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