Much has been made of the so-called "nones" - those who claim no spiritual affiliation. Media has spun the nones into a chicken-little the sky is falling narrative. The nones are an infamously difficult subsection to understand and there is a lot of false information on them. Our guest believes the nones story has become overblown and has become "a thing" due to curiosity and repetition of their supposed irreligiosity. Join us today as we dig deeply into the research concerning spirituality in America and reveals the hope and truth about the vitality and future of the church. Then we learn more about the love of God through the love of horses.