Just how are powerful AI models being used in warfare overseas? In this episode of Galaxy Brain, Charlie Warzel sits down with Wired senior writer Will Knight to discuss the rise of autonomous weapons. From the origins of Project Maven to the recent falling-out between Anthropic and the U.S. Department of Defense, they trace what’s happening as artificial intelligence moves from summarizing documents to informing decisions on the battlefield.

How do these weapons work? What are the safeguards? Who decides what values get baked into these models? As autonomous systems become harder to avoid, where exactly is the line between human judgment and machine decision making? Warzel and Knight help explain how the Pentagon and Silicon Valley are more entangled than ever and where warfare goes from here. 

Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/Listener.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices