Trying to motivate your employees may be the wrong goal entirely.

In this episode, Hall of Fame keynote speaker Joe Mull, CSP, CPAE, challenges one of the most common leadership assumptions and explains why motivation is not something leaders can give to people, but something employees experience when the conditions at work are right.

Joe reframes how leaders should think about employee motivation, employee engagement, and employee relations, especially when teams feel checked out or burned out. He explores why perks, incentives, and pep talks rarely lead to sustained effort, and how daily leadership behavior plays a much bigger role in whether people care, try, and stay committed.

The conversation focuses on how leaders shape the employee experience through trust, clarity, and attention to the realities of people’s work lives, and why creating the right conditions matters more than trying to energize people directly.

If you want to improve motivation, strengthen engagement, and build a workplace where effort comes from within, this episode offers a grounded leadership perspective for today’s workplace.

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Joe Mull is on a mission to help leaders and business owners create the conditions where commitment takes root—and the entire workplace thrives.

A dynamic and deeply relatable speaker, Joe combines compelling research, magnetic storytelling, and practical strategies to show exactly how to cultivate loyalty, ignite effort, and build people-first workplaces where both performance and morale flourish. His message is clear: when commitment is activated, engagement rises, teams gel, retention improves, and business outcomes soar.

Joe is the founder of Boss Hero School™ and the creator of the acclaimed Employalty™ framework, a roadmap for creating thriving workplaces in a new era of work. He’s the author of three books, including Employalty, named a top business book of the year by Publisher’s Weekly, and his popular podcast, Boss Better Now, ranks in the top 1% of management shows globally.

A former head of learning and development at one of the largest healthcare systems in the U.S., Joe has spent nearly two decades equipping leaders—from Fortune 500 companies like State Farm, Siemens, and Choice Hotels to hospitals, agencies, and small firms—with the tools to lead better, inspire commitment, and build more humane workplace cultures. His insights have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Harvard Business Review, and more.

In 2025, Joe was inducted into the Professional Speakers Hall of Fame (CPAE). This is the speaking profession’s highest honor, a distinction granted to less than 1% of professional speakers worldwide. It’s awarded to speakers who demonstrate exceptional talent, integrity, and influence in the speaking profession

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