In this episode of the New Churches podcast, host Noah Oldham is joined by Adam Muhtaseb and Matt Smethurst to tackle a crucial but often overlooked aspect of church planting: How do I build systems? Using the image of a trellis supporting a growing vine, the conversation highlights how intentional structures help church plants thrive, remain healthy, and bear lasting fruit. Together, they explore why guest follow-up is an essential early system for cultivating meaningful connections, the importance of establishing clear constitutions and bylaws for long-term stability and accountability, and how planters can wisely navigate the often overwhelming world of church technology. Listeners will walk away with practical insights, pastoral wisdom, and a renewed appreciation for the “trellis work” that supports vibrant, sustainable ministry.

(00:24:01) Why is guest follow-up important? How do you do it?

(11:00:02) How should church planters think about constitution and bylaws?

(18:21:21) How does a church planter pick the right technology?

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