The GenSend Podcast

In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor sit down with Bobby Wood, a church planter who has spent 16 years in Utah. Listen in as he helps explain why “same words, different meanings” is the biggest barrier to the gospel for Latter-day Saints. Equip yourself and your students on how to engage Mormons with less debate, to incorporate more questions and patience, and to make a beeline to Jesus in conversation. Discover a practical framework for talking about faith with Mormon friends, plus real stories of God moving in a pre-Christian mission field. No matter which next gen ministry you lead, this one is worth sharing with your students.
Also in This Episode: 

• Equip your students to define spiritual terms before they debate them, since terms often have different meanings to Latter-day Saints. 
• Understand the core doctrinal differences in the Trinity, salvation, and Scripture, so your students aren’t caught off guard in conversation. 
• Take the long view of evangelism: Hear why most conversions come after years of faithful seed-planting by someone else, which takes the pressure off a single conversation. 
• Get a roadmap for follow-up: Learn how to move from righteousness to the Trinity to walking through New Testament books. 
• Prepare summer and mission teams heading into hard places by learning what Utah’s mission field is actually like. 

Helpful Resources: 

• GenSend Summer 
• Free eBook: Barriers and Bridges 
• Free eBook: A Christian’s Guide to World Religions 
• Send Network  
• GenSend on Instagram and YouTube 

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at 
https://GenSend.org 

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform 
 
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Shareable Quotes: 
 
“Just because we have the same name doesn’t mean we’re worshiping the same Jesus.” 
—Bobby Wood 
 
“We can’t say Jesus but then change fundamentally who Jesus is and still claim Christianity.” 
—Shane Pruitt  
 
“You could win the conversation but not win the person to Christ.” 
—Paul Worcester  

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In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor welcome Trevin Wax, NAMB Vice President and visiting professor at Cedarville University, to discuss the shift of young people flocking to Catholic Mass and Eastern Orthodox liturgy. Discover what’s driving this move; why “otherworldliness,” not aesthetics, is the real draw; and how youth and collegiate leaders can respond with conviction instead of panic. 

Whether your students are asking questions about the Reformation, drifting toward TikTok theology, or longing for a worship experience that doesn’t feel like the rest of their week, this conversation gives you the historical grounding and practical language to shepherd them well.

Also in This Episode: 

• Understand the real data behind the “rise of Catholicism” narrative and why the numbers tell a more nuanced story than the headlines 
• Learn two core theological differences to clearly and charitably explain evangelical convictions to curious students 
• Get vetted apologetics resources to hand off to students without becoming a full-time Catholic/Orthodox debate expert yourself 
• Walk away with a working definition of “liturgy” that applies to every church—contemporary or traditional—and tools to be more intentional about your own 
• Hear how to disciple the mid-to-late 20s age gap that’s most drawn to higher liturgical traditions and celebrity-culture rejection 

Helpful Resources: 

• Gavin Ortlund’s Christian Apologetics on YouTube 
• Talking with Catholics about the Gospel: A Guide for Evangelicals by Christopher A. Castaldo 
• Roman Catholic Theology and Practice: An Evangelical Assessment by Gregg Allison 
• 40 Questions About Roman Catholicism by Gregg Allison 
• “Churchiness Is Back” by Trevin Wax  
• The Lord Is My Light by Trevin Wax 
• The Gospel Way Catechism: 50 Truths That Take on the World by Trevin Wax 
• GenSend on Instagram and YouTube 

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at 
https://GenSend.org 

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform 
 
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Shareable Quotes: 
 
“Every church is liturgical; everyone's got an order of worship.” 
—Trevin Wax 
 
“The 20-year-old on TikTok did not figure out something that 2,000 years of church fathers said otherwise.” 
—Shane Pruitt  
 
“The average student is going to go with whoever gets to him first.” 
—Paul Worcester  

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In this episode of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor tackle the tension every next gen leader faces: Gen Z is showing up to church in larger numbers than their parents’ generation, yet research shows they’re less theologically formed than ever. Listen in to discover the New Testament case for local church commitment, how to walk with students carrying real church hurt, and learn practical, field-tested language for talking with unchurched or unbelieving family members. Whether you’re leading six students or 600, this episode will give you fresh words for a conversation you’re probably already having this fall. 

 
Also in This Episode: 

• Gain a compassionate but direct approach to students dealing with real church hurt or spiritual abuse 
• Hear language for college students navigating faith conversations at home over breaks 
• Learn how to address “church hopping” or “church sampling” without shaming students 
• Pick up ready-to-use illustrations for teaching on the local church 
• Discover how to help students distinguish real shepherding from online spiritual influencers 

Helpful Resources: 

• Youth Leader Coaching Network 
• Collegiate Coaching Network  
• Movement Ready Church by Robby Gallaty and Vick Green  
• New Barna Data: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance  
• Gen Z Churchgoers Attend More but Often Lag in Application  
• 3 Circles Evangelism Tool  
• Life on Mission app  
• GenSend on Instagram and YouTube 

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at 
https://GenSend.org 

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform 
 
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Shareable Quotes: 
 
“The church is not a building to be maintained; it's a people to be mobilized.” 
—Shane Pruitt  
 
“Programs don't make disciples; disciples make disciples.” 
—Paul Worcester  
 
“Ministry, evangelism, and the mission are a team sport.” 
—Paul Worcester  

“Discipleship happens best in the local church.” 
—Lacey Villasenor 
 

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Kicking off Season 8 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor dig into a topic every campus minister has seen but few talk about openly: the “isolation cycle” that can derail Christian college students before they even know what’s happening. Drawing on his 20+ years of discipling students, Paul shares eight roadblocks that keep young believers stuck—from compromise and shame to loneliness and burnout—and shows how they can be flipped into a launchpad for spiritual growth. Whether you’re sending a freshman off to campus this fall, leading a college ministry, or discipling students in your youth group toward lifelong faithfulness, this episode gives you a practical, gospel-centered framework you can start using this week.

Also in This Episode, Learn: 

• Learn to identify the “isolation cycle,” the sin-shame-hiding-withdrawal spiral that can trap even outwardly healthy students and leaders. 
• Understand why "compromise" (80–90% surrender) may be the most under-recognized spiritual issue among students today. 
• Hear a practical distinction between the danger of isolation and the formative nature of solitude that you can teach directly to students. 
• Discover a strategy for reaching harder-to-disciple populations such as international students, commuters, and community college students. 
• See how to “reverse engineer” discipleship, starting with middle schoolers and youth, so college faith isn’t a fresh start but a continuation. 

Helpful Resources:

• Thrive: Cultivating a Faith That Endures, Paul Worcester 
• 5 Leadership Principles for Collegiate Ministry, Paul Worcester and Shane Pruitt  
• GenSend on Instagram and YouTube 

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at 
https://GenSend.org 

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform 
 
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Shareable Quotes: 
 
“Social media did not make a generation more social. The thing that was supposed to connect the world actually made loneliness go up.” 
—Shane Pruitt  
 
“It’s impossible to overdo time alone in God's presence. I've never gotten done with an hour alone with God and felt like that was a waste of time.” 
—Paul Worcester  
 
“There’s a difference between isolation and solitude. Isolation is unplanned and alone, typically where sin thrives. Solitude is intentional time with the Lord where your soul thrives.” 
—Shane Pruitt  
 
“Bonhoeffer said, ‘The enemy loves to see a man by himself.’ Because the more alone they are, the tighter sin’s stranglehold on the person.” 
—Paul Worcester

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In episode 8 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, hosts Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor welcome special guest, Dr. Shelly Melia, coauthor with Pruitt of Reaching Generation Alpha. In this episode, discover how to effectively reach and disciple Gen Alpha, those born between 2010–2025, the first fully digital generation. Next-gen leaders, ministry partners, and parents will be equipped to understand what shapes Gen Alpha, how to engage them both online and relationally, and meet their deep spiritual hunger with biblical clarity. Learn practical steps to faithfully make disciples in this cultural moment by understanding the world that’s forming them and how the gospel speaks directly into it.

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

GenSend on Instagram and YouTube

      ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

      ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform

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Shareable Quotes:

“The question is not, ‘Are they being discipled?’ The question is, ‘Who or what is discipling them?’” —Shane Pruitt 

“Gen Z expanded their network through technology. Gen Alpha has a global perspective as a starting point.” —Dr. Shelly Melia

“Disciples are hand-crafted, not mass produced.” —Paul Worcester 

“Technology is not just changing Gen Alpha; it is forming them.” —Dr. Shelly Melia

“Social media didn’t make kids more social. Artificial intelligence is not going to make our kids more intelligent.” —Dr. Shelly Melia

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In episode 7 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor unpack the growing gap between Bible access and Bible understanding and why it may be one of the most urgent discipleship challenges facing pastors and ministry leaders right now. From the truth about “deconstruction” to the surprising hunger Gen Z has for deep theology, this conversation will challenge how you think about teaching Scripture and give you practical ways to build ministries that produce students who don’t just hear the Word but live it and share it.

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

GenSend on Instagram and YouTube

      ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

      ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform

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Shareable Quotes:

“One of the greatest issues we have in the church today is Bible illiteracy. If we don’t know truth, we can’t live it out.” —Shane Pruitt 

“Students are clearly hungry, but are we equipping them to feed themselves?” —Lacey Villasenor

“Some people aren’t deconstructing—they’re just living in sin and looking for a new word to justify it.” —Shane Pruitt

“It’s not just knowing the Word—it’s obeying what you know that builds a life on the rock.” —Paul Worcester 

“Some of the most effective teaching is just opening the Bible and walking through it.” —Paul Worcester

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In episode 6 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor help next-gen leaders discern what truly matters in a digital world where influence is measured in likes and views. They unpack the tension between platform and anointing, and why viral doesn’t always mean faithful. Discover the dangers of equating online popularity with spiritual authority as well as practical guidance for leading students with discernment. Be challenged to rethink success, guard your heart from comparison, and anchor your ministry in Scripture instead of algorithms. Listen in to be equipped to shepherd students through digital noise while staying grounded in real, relational discipleship. 

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

GenSend on Instagram and YouTube

      ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

      ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform
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Shareable Quotes:

“Gifts and talents can build a crowd, but only the Holy Spirit can build the Church.” —Shane Pruitt

“Students often assume that if it has a lot of views, it must be true.” —Lacey Villasenor

“It’s a snare to compare. Just put out truth and trust the Lord with it.” —Shane Pruitt

“The metric of success you choose will shape the ministry you build.” —Lacey Villasenor

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In episode 5 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor offer a clear vision for how bivocational and covocational ministry is a strategic advantage for reaching your campus and community, especially if you’re a leader who’s navigating ministry alongside school, work, or life. Discover practical rhythms for managing your time, avoiding burnout, and leading from a place of spiritual health. Be challenged to rethink calling, not as a single lane, but as a life lived on mission wherever God has placed you. This conversation will equip you to lead faithfully right where you are, with what you have.

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

GenSend on Instagram and YouTube

      ★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

      ★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform

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Shareable Quotes:

“See it all as a marathon. If you sprint in every area, you’ll burn out and not be great for anyone.” —Shane Pruitt

“Your goal isn’t how much ministry you can do; it’s how much you can empower others to do.” —Paul Worcester 

“When students see someone with a marketplace job teaching the Bible, it expands their vision of calling.” —Lacey Villasenor

“If you're covocational, you're in good company—Jesus was a carpenter, and Paul was a tentmaker.” —Shane Pruitt

“When you meet real needs, people start asking, ‘Why are you here?’—and that opens the door for the gospel.” —Lacey Villasenor

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In episode 4 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor welcome Catherine Renfro as they discuss the data behind the growing church engagement gap and offer practical insight into why college-aged women are disengaging from weekly church attendance and spiritual habits. You’ll be equipped to disciple young women in a culture shaped by social media, political polarization, and mistrust of institutions. Discover proactive strategies to empower women as laborers in the harvest, strengthen relational discipleship, and address difficult topics like leadership, purpose, and church hurt with both truth and compassion. Listen in to gather help in building ministries that mobilize both young men and young women for the mission of God.

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

GenSend on Instagram and YouTube

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform

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Shareable Quotes:

“If we say we want our ministries to be a hospital for souls, then we shouldn’t push people away who are hurting.” —Shane Pruitt

“Relational connection is one of the highest values for Gen Z, especially women.” —Paul Worcester 

“If we’re going to reach this world, it’s going to take every single one of us.” —Catherine Renfro

“It’s really easy to train your mind to have a bad view of the church if you’re constantly fed negative stories.” —Lacey Villasenor

“We define God by our circumstances instead of letting God define our circumstances.” —Catherine Renfro

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In episode 3 of Season 7 of The GenSend Podcast, Shane Pruitt, Paul Worcester, and Lacey Villasenor unpack the difference between justification and sanctification and why understanding both matters for next-gen leaders. Discover why sanctification is not instant perfection but a lifelong, grace-filled process of becoming who you already are in Christ. Gain clarity on distorted theology, shame-driven discipleship, and “quick fix” spirituality, as well as biblical and practical encouragement for leaders and the students in their ministries. Ultimately, be reminded that the process itself is the reward. Walking with Jesus on the journey is the victory.  

What You'll Learn:

Helpful Resources:

★ Find more resources to lead the next generation on mission at https://GenSend.org

★ Subscribe to The GenSend Podcast on your favorite podcast platform

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