This episode sees Rob Lawton discuss how Lawton Next Gen is inspiring young people into the trade and helping tackle the industry skills gap. Andy and Todd also chat with Sophie Davis from Pink Plumbing about her journey from apprentice to self-employment, the barriers facing young people, education reform, and her visit to 10 Downing Street. Later, Harry Budd from Logic4Training joins the conversation to explore heat pumps, fast-track learning, and whether flexible training models are the future of the industry.