Ray Anderson and Michael Crow were a little behind the curve in last year when the NIL era began. With that said, Arizona State as a whole appears to have righted the ship in an effort to become players in an ever-changing landscape of college athletics. The Sun Devils aren’t an Alabama in football or a Kansas in basketball, at least not yet. With college sports evolving, Kenny Dillingham and Bobby Hurley are in prime spots to help elevate their respective programs. So what’s the benchmark for the next wave of athletes? Plus, who’s on the Arizona State Mount Rushmore? Join Anthony, Shane and Shawn as they discuss it all and more on the PHNX Sun Devils show!

0:00 Intro

1:30 Wednesday update

5:34 NIL Landscape

25:28 Does Bobby need to do more?

30:38 Goals for Bobby

36:52 Flag Draft

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