For our final Afternoon Edition of the year, we call up our emergency mental support, Sami Shah. 2021 has been a long and upsetting year, and so Charles chats to Sami who brings out his new and optimistic way of looking at life. Sami reminds us that every turd has its beauty, and that includes 2021 - and Alan Jones.

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