What if the strongest thing you could do as a leader is go first? First to show up. First to celebrate someone else. First to risk being vulnerable. In this powerful episode, Jeff and Steve talk about how secure leaders create space for others to thrive—not by posturing, but by being present. You’ll hear how the willingness to risk rejection opens the door to deeper relationships, stronger teams, and lasting impact. If you’ve ever struggled with isolation or insecurity in leadership, this episode is for you.

TIMESTAMPS
9:36 - Breaking the Cycle of Leadership Loneliness
17:13 - How to Build Meaningful Relationships
25:54 - Celebrating Others' Successes
34:47 - The Gift of Pastoral Leadership
41:14 - Resources for Growth and Healing

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