How They Scaled It

How They Scaled It

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How They Scaled It episodes

  • Nail It Before You Scale It w. Scott Peper

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Scott Peper, Founder and CEO of Mobilization Funding, to unpack the unconventional journey that led him from sales leadership into building one of the most specialized lenders in commercial construction. 


    Scott shares how a small investment opportunity unexpectedly became a full-scale business, the lessons he learned from early lending mistakes, and why solving real customer pain points matters more than scaling quickly. 


    The conversation dives deep into entrepreneurship, leadership, risk tolerance, culture, and how word-of-mouth growth still outperforms flashy marketing when your product truly delivers.

    45 min
  • Build the Foundation, Then Scale w. Eric Fortenberry

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Eric Fortenberry, Founder and CEO of JobTread, as he shares how he built one of the fastest-growing platforms in construction tech. 


    Starting with a chaotic, paper-based construction business, Eric stepped in to streamline operations, increase profitability, and create a scalable system now used by contractors nationwide. He unpacks the systems, mindset, and customer-first approach that fueled JobTread’s explosive growth.


    00:00:00 – Why most construction businesses can’t scale

    00:01:26 – Meet Eric Fortenberry, CEO of JobTread

    00:02:15 – How a one-year consulting gig turned into a tech company

    00:03:29 – The broken systems Eric walked into

    00:04:50 – Why no existing software fit—and why he built his own

    00:05:45 – How JobTread drove a 43% profit increase in one year

    00:07:10 – The difference between markup and margin

    00:08:46 – Fixing incentives with bid requests and work orders

    00:10:59 – Transitioning from hourly to fixed cost jobs

    00:13:24 – When Eric knew JobTread could be a platform

    00:15:42 – Getting buy-in from resistant team members

    00:18:12 – How JobTread supports implementation

    00:21:32 – Who JobTread is built for

    00:24:30 – Why estimating is the key to long-term stickiness

    00:30:57 – The dashboards and KPIs contractors care about

    00:34:42 – Managing product feedback from 50,000+ users

    00:39:47 – How JobTread built a winning team culture

    00:44:52 – The future of construction tech

    00:50:50 – Eric’s biggest lesson: Radical transparency wins

    53 min
  • Scaling a Mission-Driven Skincare Brand w. Cheree Ashley

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Cheree Ashley, Founder and CEO of Osier. Cheree went from opening treatment centers at the age of 24 to launching Osier, a skincare brand rooted in healing. 


    In this episode, she shares how Osier was born from her personal recovery journey, why clean, affordable products are a form of self-care, and how she’s balancing growth, mission, and motherhood while scaling a purpose-driven DTC brand.


    00:00:13 — Cheree’s no-backup plan: why failure wasn’t an option

    00:00:34 — From recovery to skincare: how Osier was born

    00:03:03 — Why Cheree thrives in chaos—and how she makes it work

    00:04:48 — Lessons from trial-and-error in her first business

    00:06:44 — Building resilience through consistency and patience

    00:07:34 — The story behind the name “Osier” and its symbolism

    00:09:08 — Recovery, self-care, and skincare: how they connect

    00:10:52 — Getting vulnerable in the beauty industry

    00:12:06 — Osier’s giveback mission: funding treatment programs

    00:15:31 — The surprising timeline of product development

    00:16:27 — Stepping into the world of DTC and social media

    00:17:42 — Formulating products with Korean manufacturers

    00:20:47 — What’s worked for early traction: Amazon, TikTok Shop & pop-ups

    00:22:09 — The dream: scholarship recovery care through product sales

    00:24:36 — How Cheree leads teams with service and humility

    00:26:56 — Building structure through boundaries and good habits

    00:30:17 — Discipline = freedom: the power of routine

    00:32:18 — What’s next for Osier over the next 3–5 years

    00:33:08 — Advice Cheree would give her younger founder self

    00:34:48 — Letting go of control and trusting the process

    36 min
  • Build Credibility, Grow Your Business w. Rochelle Jacobs

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Rochelle Jacobs, Co-Founder of Naturally Serious and a Wall Street veteran who returned to her roots in skincare. Rochelle shares how she blended clinical efficacy with clean ingredients to build a brand that's redefining modern beauty. 


    She talks about the power of partnerships, the lessons she learned launching just before the pandemic, and how learning to let go transformed her approach to growth. From bootstrapping a manufacturing facility to making clean beauty truly accessible, Rochelle’s story is a masterclass in purpose-driven leadership and quiet disruption.


    00:00:13 – The importance of the right retail partners

    00:00:36 – Meet Rochelle Jacobs

    00:01:47 – Beauty roots: Her family’s skincare legacy

    00:03:19 – Why finance came first and how she was pulled into skincare

    00:04:18 – Launching a manufacturing facility with zero experience

    00:05:47 – The hands-on MBA of building a beauty brand from scratch

    00:07:20 – Learning by doing

    00:08:27 – From spas to Sephora

    00:10:36 – Product philosophy: Simplicity, transparency, and great naming

    00:11:15 – Why fewer SKUs was a deliberate strategy

    00:12:19 – Defining “clean”

    00:14:25 – Clean meets clinical: Overcoming skepticism

    00:16:21 – How the brand encourages organic discovery and accessibility

    00:17:47 – Their patented antioxidant blend & anti-pollution edge

    00:22:11 – Partnering with hospitals

    00:25:13 – Creating healing products during breast cancer treatment

    00:26:40 – Leadership lessons: Letting go, trusting your team

    00:29:30 – Why word-of-mouth hiring still works

    00:30:12 – The myth of work-life balance

    00:32:29 – Biggest challenge: scaling in a TikTok-driven world

    00:34:45 – Trends, distractions, and your phone

    00:35:55 – Staying curious and humble as a founder

    00:36:51 – Advice to past self

    00:38:41 – Where to find Naturally Serious online

    40 min
  • Sell Top-Down, Scale Faster w. Andre Wouansi

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Andre Wouansi, Founder of Accurate Legal Billing. He shares how he went from auditing law firm invoices to building an AI-powered platform that’s saved firms over $225M in lost revenue.


    Hear how he overcame industry resistance, built a product without writing code, and why mindset is his most powerful leadership tool.


    00:00:13 – The mindset that drives Andre as an entrepreneur

    00:00:52 – Introducing Accurate Legal Billing (ALB)

    00:01:32 – From bill auditing to legal tech founder

    00:03:32 – Becoming part of the solution

    00:05:41 – Building a product without being a developer

    00:07:32 – Facing doubt and early industry resistance

    00:09:06 – Turning every “no” into a “yes”

    00:12:13 – How ALB evolved over the last 10 years

    00:14:40 – Going from unknown to industry standard

    00:17:00 – Landing ALB’s first enterprise clients

    00:20:18 – Turning opportunity into case studies

    00:24:32 – Why going straight to the top worked

    00:26:00 – How COVID shifted law firm tech adoption

    00:29:31 – Building tools for the next generation of lawyers

    00:33:06 – Quantifying impact: $225M saved

    00:35:01 – Leadership lessons and changing team mindset

    00:43:55 – Why purpose matters more than profit

    00:46:45 – The next five years for ALB

    52 min
  • Stop Selling Features, Start Selling Outcomes w. Pedro Arellano

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Pedro Arellano, Co-Founder and CEO of Wallabi. He shares how his 25-year journey through the data and analytics world led him to build a new kind of business intelligence platform. 


    Listen now to learn how AI, accessibility, and empathy intersect to drive better business outcomes, and why simply having more dashboards doesn’t equate to impact.


    00:00:13 — Pedro introduces himself and credits his team

    00:00:51 — Courtney introduces Wallabi and Pedro’s background

    00:01:55 — From WarGames to coding on a Commodore 64

    00:02:45 — Discovering a passion for data in college

    00:03:35 — Early BI landscape: IT-controlled and exclusive

    00:04:45 — Two big disruptions: self-serve tools and generative AI

    00:06:47 — Why LLMs are the next wave in BI

    00:08:11 — The persistent issue of accessibility in analytics

    00:09:41 — Grounding product in real user problems

    00:11:08 — How to find valuable problems worth solving

    00:13:11 — The gradual “aha” that led to launching Wallabi

    00:15:33 — Moving from data access to contextual intelligence

    00:18:29 — Helping users act on insights, not just see them

    00:20:11 — What makes Wallabi exciting: solving existential business questions

    00:22:15 — The first customers: direct sales and digital marketing

    00:24:18 — Translating geek speak to real user pain

    00:26:58 — Balancing vision with user feedback

    00:28:56 — Avoiding the “order taker” trap

    00:30:01 — Thinking through fundraising and growth pace

    00:32:05 — Staying grounded as a founder

    00:36:37 — Human-first culture in a tech-first space

    00:38:11 — Pedro’s advice to new founders

    00:41:48 — Where to find Wallabi

    43 min
  • Retail Isn’t Luck, It’s Strategy w. Elina Wang

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Elina Wang, Co-Founder and CEO of ESW Beauty, as she shares the inspiring journey behind her wellness-driven skincare brand.


    From a $25,000 bank loan and DIY packaging to launching in major retailers like Kohl’s, Target, and Whole Foods, Elina reveals the hard-won lessons of retail partnerships, building a values-driven brand, and creating standout experiences through grassroots marketing and creative events.


    00:00:12 – Meet Elina Wang, founder of ESW Beauty

    00:01:16 – How her wellness journey inspired the first product

    00:03:14 – Taking a $25K leap and launching while in college

    00:04:47 – Formulating custom products with a biochem background

    00:05:41 – How a bold pitch at Cosmoprof landed Kohl’s

    00:07:38 – The art (and obsession) of packaging design

    00:09:32 – Differentiating in a crowded skincare market

    00:10:45 – Her co-founder story: from dating to dream team

    00:13:53 – Scaling from 2 people to a team of 15+

    00:16:11 – Landing Target and Walgreens after years of follow-up

    00:20:20 – Keeping brand vision aligned as you grow

    00:22:42 – Why every product launch is a huge team effort

    00:23:01 – Elina’s favorite unconventional marketing moment

    00:24:37 – Building connection through events and community

    00:27:18 – Elina’s personal rituals for staying grounded

    00:29:16 – Building a great team through thoughtful hiring

    00:30:59 – What’s next for ESW Beauty

    00:31:40 – Elina’s advice: Have a funding plan & be agile

    36 min
  • Building Trust Then Building the Brand w. Scott Kveton

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Scott Kveton, Co-Founder and CEO of CaseMark, who has a track record of building companies that define categories. 


    Scott shares how intuition, scrappiness, and relentless customer focus shaped his journey, and why AI is set to transform legal tech in the same way the iPhone reshaped mobile.


    00:00:13 – Scott on brand-building struggles and leaning on experts

    00:00:52 – Courtney introduces Scott’s career journey

    00:01:39 – The three T’s: team, tech, timing

    00:03:06 – Learning to trust your gut as an entrepreneur

    00:04:28 – Investor skepticism and TAM projections

    00:07:08 – Urban Airship’s scrappy early launch

    00:09:26 – Lessons from Twilio’s Jeff Lawson

    00:12:18 – Why legal tech? The problem CaseMark solves

    00:14:39 – Starting small with “easy buttons”

    00:16:47 – Why AI will increase litigation

    00:20:59 – Simplifying the product for attorneys

    00:23:32 – Scaling medical chronology automation

    00:26:34 – CaseMark’s subject matter advantage (Scott’s wife as advisor)

    00:29:18 – The future of AI collapsing tools in legal

    00:30:04 – Scott’s evolving leadership style

    00:34:46 – Branding lessons

    00:38:59 – Advice for legal tech founders

    00:42:12 – What Scott wishes he knew at CaseMark’s start

    00:44:19 – Where to find CaseMark and connect with Scott

    46 min
  • Empowering Women by Scaling Community w. Dani Pickens

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Dani Pickens, Founder & Chief Enablement Officer of The Executive Evolution (TEE). Dani shares how a non-compete lawsuit, career pivots, and personal grit led her to build a growing women’s network for tech and channel professionals.


    With over 120 members across the US, TEE is redefining mentorship and support. No dues, no gatekeeping, just real talk and real community.


    00:00:13 – Meet Dani Pickens and The Executive Evolution

    00:01:33 – From Istanbul to door-to-door telecom sales

    00:03:27 – What selling DSL taught Dani about grit

    00:05:45 – Becoming Channel Chief before 40

    00:07:26 – The non-compete lawsuit that changed everything

    00:09:49 – Founding TEE out of personal pain

    00:12:26 – The idea behind "The Human Channel"

    00:15:56 – Building skills, sharing them freely

    00:17:09 – What makes TEE different from other networks

    00:20:32 – How TEE built a board from its first retreat

    00:25:04 – Organic growth and member referrals

    00:28:05 – Relaunching the mentorship program

    00:31:22 – Cross-generational mentoring in action

    00:33:33 – Annual Hope Kit fundraiser and impact

    00:39:26 – Balancing leadership, TEE, and family

    00:45:25 – Launching the Leadership Exchange program

    00:47:55 – Dani’s advice to herself on Day 1: stay the course

    50 min
  • Turning Expertise Into a Scalable Brand w. Claire Bing

    In this episode of How They Scaled It, I sit down with Claire Bing, Founder and CEO of Confiance Cosmetic Group. Confiance is a beauty and personal care consulting company specializing in regulatory and supply chain solutions for domestic and international sales.


    Claire didn’t set out to be a regulatory expert, but today she’s behind the compliance success of over 200 clients. From her start in a donut factory to scaling Confiance into an international consultancy, Claire shares how science, systems, and empathy became her formula for growth. 


    She also opens up about evolving as a leader, using tech to scale smarter, and why clean beauty is about more than buzzwords.


    00:00:13 – Why Claire didn’t like the leader she used to be

    00:00:51 – Introduction to Confiance Cosmetic Group

    00:01:46 – How a microbiologist ended up in beauty

    00:03:34 – The pumpkin spice donut that launched her career

    00:04:47 – From Ohio to NYC: landing at Tarte Cosmetics

    00:05:49 – Becoming an accidental regulatory expert

    00:07:48 – Why she started her consultancy

    00:10:15 – The legal evolution of “clean beauty”

    00:14:49 – Arsenic is natural—so what does clean really mean?

    00:17:00 – Ingredients vs. process: where safety truly lies

    00:20:28 – Accidental business launch via LinkedIn

    00:23:01 – Building a mother-friendly, remote-first team

    00:31:54 – How tech and Notion keep everything running

    00:34:48 – Using Claude AI and PLM software to scale smarter

    00:37:35 – Why kindness is a business strategy

    00:40:41 – Claire’s leadership transformation

    00:48:04 – Redefining success and legacy

    00:50:39 – Claire’s vision for the future of Confiance

    00:54:23 – The one piece of advice she’d give her younger self

    58 min

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