We're recording this in mid-2021, as people are coming out of the pandemic and things are opening up. Events are starting to happen in person, clients are actually having meetings in person. 

Meridith and I are going to dive into what are the traps that people are falling into today, that might be similar to traps they fell into as the pandemic was starting, and what can we learn going forward? 

The problem that you solved before COVID, the problem that you solved during COVID, and the problem that you sell and are solving, as we come out of COVID, are all different.