This is an important episode. To start, you need to memorize these key phrases for winning any argument:

•   "I know you are, but what am I?"
•   "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you."
•   "Takes one to know one!"
•   "If you love it so much, why don’t you marry it?"

If none of those work, try kicking them in the shin.

That’s the abridged version—if you want more detail, listen to the episode!

What if conflict wasn’t something to avoid, but actually a tool for growth?

In this episode of Clearly, we (Jimmy & Kelly) dive into the messy, awkward, and often uncomfortable world of arguments. We’ve had our fair share—especially in the early years of our marriage—so we’re bringing real stories, hard-learned lessons, and a whole lot of biblical wisdom to the table.

We talk about why most of us either avoid conflict (peace-faking) or blow up in it (peace-breaking) and how there’s actually a better way—peace-making. We’ll break down how honesty, curiosity, and grace can change the way we handle tension in our relationships, whether it’s with a spouse, a friend, or even that coworker who just gets to you.

So, what does it look like to argue for the glory of God? Let’s get into it.

Additional Resource:

If you want to dive deeper into handling anger and conflict well, check out Good and Angry: Redeeming Anger, Irritation, Complaining, and Bitterness by David Powlison.