The Messy City Podcast

How to be a Small Developer that Makes a Big Impact


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Jesse Russell and Ryan Andrews fit the profile of successful small developers. That is, they had no experience at all before trying it, almost no money, but have a ton of passion and creativity. Jesse and Ryan discuss how they came from the worlds of tv show production and finance to create a small development business in beautiful Bend, Oregon. They now focus primarily on cottage-style housing and unique, communal projects.

Beyond their projects, what is incredibly fascinating is their story of creating a locally-based investment fund so they can do more projects and truly work hand-in-hand with people invested in their community’s success. If you’re someone that is truly based in your community, and want to see more small-scale projects get done, the details of their model are worth a listen. It’s an astonishing example of starting with one modest project, and quickly moving up to having $100 million of projects in progress.

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Music notes: all songs by low standards, ca. 2010. Videos here. If you’d like a CD for low standards, message me and you can have one for only $5.

Intro: “Why Be Friends

Outro: “Fairweather Friend



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