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"We don't have the time to be in constant debate. We have to find solutions… and we're going to set the stage for a future that's going to be brighter." -Marko Bey
"We need to have a plan in place, and we need to practice these incidents before they ever occur. Preparation is crucial in this. Prevention response, recovery, mitigation- all are in a whole community response." -Belinda Brown
Episode Description:
The only way to address the health of our forests and ecosystems and the threats to our communities is through collaborative conversation. Therefore, building partnerships before disasters happen is crucial to our safety and existence. Marko Bey and Belinda Brown have been in the restoration work for over 30 years, and they continue serving communities through the Lomakatsi Restoration Project. Marko serves as Lomakatsi's Executive Director, while Belinda works as the Tribal Partnership Director. In this episode, Marko and Belinda talk about the best systems in implementing restoration and mitigation practices. They also share practical approaches to address collaboration mistrust among sectors and communities, equity issues, communication barriers, and raising sustainable funding. Tune in and join the #OneVoiceOneMindOneAccord movement for a more resilient today and a brighter tomorrow!
Connect with After the Fire: Recover. Rebuild. Reimagine.
Website : https://afterthefireusa.org/
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuTefxZgWUJkDVoZGZQpxgQ
Highlights:
08:20: How to Address the Need for Collaboration
14:07: How to Help "America's Secret Family"
22:24: How to Manage Cross-Sector Collaboration
32:14: How to Handle Rural-Urban Mistrust
38:42: How to Speak for the Ones Who Don't Have a Voice
45:39: How to Navigate the Mitigation and Restoration Work
52:06: How to Raise Sustainable Fundings
58:36: One Voice, One Mind, One Accord
"Being a volunteer is a privilege… I wasn't documented so I volunteered a lot. And that volunteer work led many doors to be opened up for me." -Jocksana Corona
Episode Description:
On September 8th of 2020, Oregon continues in high alert as another brush fire sparks along Almeda Drive, the 18th fire of the 2020 Wildfire Season. With unusually strong winds and extremely dry conditions, the recipe for an impending inferno is complete. Raging NW through Ashland, Talent, and Phoenix, the Almeda Fire finally ended its rage in the county's very seat in Medford. It burned 3200 acres of land, destroyed over 3000 structures, and left 3 fatalities.
Jocksana Corona, a citizen from Talent, remembers that day like an unending nightmare. They had to evacuate four times in 24 hours, their house burned down, their family member was stuck between two fires, their cats missing, and their hopes crushed to the ground. In this episode, Jocksana relates the heart-wrenching story of how they battled through the burning embers of the wildfire and the society's relief system as a member of the undocumented community. Stay until the end to hear how this story ends!
As an emergent leader, Jocksana also shares how her prior volunteer works have helped her during these challenging times and how it opened the way for her to support fellow undocumented members of the community before, during, and after the fire. Like Jocksana, there are millions of undocumented citizens living in the US alone, and they are paying into a system where they cannot access. During a disaster, they are deprived of the right to rebuild, recover, and reimagine. Join the conversation and find out how we can rectify this dysfunction in our system and create a better world for everyone, regardless of status and background.
Connect with After the Fire: Recover. Rebuild. Reimagine.
Website : https://afterthefireusa.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AfterTheFireUSA
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AfterTheFireUSA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afterthefireusa/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/after-the-fire-usa-8241b7217/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuTefxZgWUJkDVoZGZQpxgQ
Highlights:
00:43 When the Reg Flag Stands
16:22 Stuck In Between Two Fires
21:26 A Tearful, Sleepless Night
27:29 Finding Shelter Amidst COVID
32:44 Being a Volunteer is a Privilege
40:00 The Beauty of a Community
45:00 Challenges Faced by the Undocumented Community
54:07 Housing and Undocumented Communities
59:51 54 Days and Reunited
"Sometimes, it's not going to be pretty. And sometimes, it's not going to be easy, but we're going to make it, and we're going to move on and move forward, oftentimes, to a better place." - Sydnie Kohara
In times of disaster, providing accurate information is crucial to public safety and recovery. In this episode, Jennifer interviews Sydnie Kohara, Founder of Kohara Studios on the role of journalist in informing the public during a disaster. Sydnie shares her experiences as a seasoned journalist who's gone through numerous disasters. She also offers her expertise on disaster preparedness, organization, self-care, and communication. Everyone can be a journalist. Tune in and find out how you can take part in delivering facts during a disaster and how it can save your family and neighbors.
Connect with After the Fire: Recover. Rebuild. Reimagine.
Website : https://afterthefireusa.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AfterTheFireUSA
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AfterTheFireUSA
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afterthefireusa/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/after-the-fire-usa-8241b7217/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuTefxZgWUJkDVoZGZQpxgQ
Highlights:
04:28: A Career That Will Take You Around The World
13:23: Do What You Can To Tell People Stories
18:25: What to Tell and NOT to Tell
22:48: Disaster Preparedness
30:57: Volunteerism
34:05: How to Organize and Communicate
3609: Be Self Sufficient
44:26: Everyone Can Be A Journalist
50:40: Take Care Of Yourself
SERIES: Role of the Non-Profit
"We had to understand that things were changing whether we like it or not. We want to keep things the way they were but to be resilient in the future, we need to adapt to the fact that fire is a necessary part of the ecosystem." -Lisa Micheli Ph.D
Episode Description:
The 3 most expensive words are: equity, sustainability and resiliency. We are now in a period where we are paying for the lack of stewardship with high costs, but there is still a hope. This week, Dr. Lisa Micheli, joins the stage to talk about how to connect each individual landowner to their community and to resource opportunities. Dr. Micheli is the CEO and President of Pepperwood Preserve Foundation and has also served on the board of Rebuild NorthBay Foundation since 2018. In terms of long-term recovery, a wider scope and a more aggressive approach is required. Dr. Micheli shares more about the work they do on education and resiliency strategies and how it can be duplicated by other communities. As a scientist and researcher, she also discusses the nature of fires and why it is beneficial for the ecosystem, how fire travels, and landscape solutions to scale up the area of treatment. If landowners, funders, developers, and communities team up together and start meaningful conversations instead of arguments, they can change the framework of how we catch up with the backlog on stewardship. Tune in and find out how to save time on planning and move resources forward with a more cost effective approach.
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Highlights:
03:57 Chosen by Fire
09:54 The Problem with Lack of Stewardship
14:42 From the Ground Up
25:41 Public Funds for Mitigation
28:23 Prioritization of Resources and Strategies
33:31 Equity Issues on Land Management
39:19 Conversation for Win-Wins
44:44 What About a Landscape Reset
49:21 3 of the Most Expensive Words
SERIES: Role of the Tribal Leader
"The policies that you make should reflect your love for the community... If you can't do that, then you need to take a step back and go talk to your elders again." -Reno Franklin
Episode Description:
Did you know? - The first inhabitants of coastal Sonoma County were the Kashia/Kashaya Band of Pomo Indians!
In this episode, Jennifer sits with Reno Franklin, Chairman Emeritus of the Kashia Band of Pomo Indians. He is also a longtime Board Member of Rebuild NorthBay. Reno will take you back in time to see what's here and what's coming in terms of disasters. He also shares priceless wisdom and values critical in serving others during a crisis. Being a trusted resource, Reno also talks about how to help tribal communities be more resilient, advocate for equity, make community-centered policies, and democratize information. There is a reason why tribal knowledge and practices worked effectively to avoid wildfires. As the saying goes, Think Like an Indian! Tune in as Reno shares what that means for us who are living in the present and the future generation.
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Highlights:
05:58: Invasive Species and Their Part in the Rise of Wildfires
11:01: The Kashia Pomo Tribe
15:50: How to React to Fire
22:05: Be a Trusted Resource
26:58: Air Quality and Equity
31:17: Tools For Achieving Equity
36:57: Democratize Information
39:39: Think Like an Indian
41:36: Acknowledge Your Worker Bees
SERIES: Role of the Public Sector Leader
"Sometimes we think physically doing something for someone is what's best for them. But sometimes they just want someone to hear their story… Sit back and listen. People want to be heard." -Christa López
Episode Description:
There are so many layers to unpack in a disaster. Everything happens so quickly, people are anxious, supplies are running low, and people's lives and livelihoods are at risk. If you are a leader, you may be challenged with making sure you address the needs of each community in your jurisdiction and help them develop resiliency at the same time. This can be a demanding yet exciting task. In this episode, Jennifer interviews one of the strong leaders of today, Dr. Christa López. Dr. López is the Chief of Staff for Community Development and Revitalization for the Texas General Land Office. Listen in as they teach how you can obtain the best knowledge possible during a crisis, find trustworthy investments, get the most of your insurance, and prepare for necessities during the YOYO (You're On Your Own) period in a disaster. Dr. López also shares valuable insights for long-term recovery in terms of disaster housing, managing donations, and considering the culture of a community. Whether you are a leader or a community member, you can find ways to help- the right way. And sometimes, that help is simply becoming a friend who is ready to sit and listen to the victims.
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Highlights:
02:52: Life Lessons About Real Life Disasters
09:10: The First Step- Investments
15:12: Taking Care of the Needs of Those in Your Jurisdiction
18:26: Considerations Before Making Donations
21:44: Respect for Community Culture
24:21: Sit and Listen
31:05: Where Can You Help
36:18: How to be Resilient
42:00: Always Document
46:15: Disaster Housing and Innovations
52:20: No One Should be Re-traumatized
SERIES: Role of the Non-Profit
"A lot of Adjusters come in from out of state. They're supposed to be trained,
but they often don't.
So it often falls to the property owner to stand up for themselves." -Amy Bach
Episode Description:
One of the urgent issues in recovery is insufficient insurance. It is often dismissed by many because of varied reasons. Whereas, for the ones that do have insurance, the process is plain complex and lengthy. But with the trends in disasters today, having insurance is truly a lifesaver. Join United Policyholders Founder Amy Bach, Esq., for Part 2 of How to Navigate Insurance in times of disaster. Jennifer and Amy talk about the coverage of insurance policy, the role of advocacy, laws and opportunities in insurance, as well as money and equity issues. If you are a nonprofit, Amy gives profound advice on how to secure fundings so you can put the victims at the core of your programs. While claiming your insurance, you may meet unscrupulous people trying to swindle you and untrained insurance adjusters evaluating your properties poorly. Listen in for practical guides on how to avoid insurance fraud. Be proactive and take the responsibility to stand up for your own recovery.
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Highlights:
04:00: Growing Problem-Lack of Insurance
10:54: The Coverage of Insurance Policy
16:38: The Roadmap to Recovery
26:14: Forward with Long-Term Solutions
35:36: Help the Community Help Themselves
38:12: Find Trusted Help
SERIES: Role of the Non-Profit
"You don't want to say to people, 'trust no one'. You want to say, 'trust but verify'." -Amy Bach
Episode Description:
Getting insured is one of the best things you can do before a disaster strikes. It gives you the power to protect your family and property after the immediate dangers have passed. However, some people may try to take advantage of the victims while pretending to offer assistance. How do you know who to trust? In this episode, you will be empowered to successfully navigate the world of insurance with United Policyholders Founder, Amy Bach, Esq.. Amy talks about understanding insurance policy and the two things you will need for long-term recovery. Insurance companies are still businesses that operate for profit. Join in and discover practical steps you can take to make sure you are getting the most out of your insurance.
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Highlights:
04:45: The World of Insurance
13:20: Knowing Who to Trust
16:48: Beware of the "Heroes"
20:21: The Truth About Insurance Companies
SERIES: Role of the Non-Profit
"You cannot approach a community without respecting in full who they are and their autonomy. If you can't approach it that way, it's going to come off as ingenuine, and they're going to read it right away, and that disengages people right off the bat." -Alma Bowen
Episode Description:
In the event of a disaster, first responders receive calls beyond number, but only a small fraction of these come from communities that need help the most. Oftentimes, they are the last to receive assistance because of language barriers, documentation issues, disabilities, and lack of technical knowledge. Hence, this episode focuses on helping 3 of the most vulnerable groups build resiliency: the Latin X community, seniors, and undocumented immigrants. Tune in as Jennifer and Alma Bowen, the CEO and Founder of Nuestra Comunidad, discuss the best practices and most appropriate approaches to bring the culture of preparedness and resiliency into these communities. They talk about practical steps to address problems in communicating information, creating an alert system, power outage, evacuation plans, and transportation. In addition to helping communities, hear how Alma and her team launched a special project on training the younger generations to become Preparedness Ambassadors. As a former 9-1-1 Emergency Services Dispatcher, Alma also shares how first responders can cope up with personal losses and trauma as they continue to serve the community. Join the conversation and discover ways to strengthen your capacity to serve!
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Highlights:
05:12: A Life-Altering Night
13:52: Helping the Vulnerable Population
25:07: Training Young "Preparedness Ambassadors"
30:06: Acknowledging the Bigger Problems
36:18: Meeting the Needs of the Undocumented Population
44:38: Helping the Senior Population
50:05 Building Capacity
53:04: How to Serve
SERIES: Role of Agriculture
"You do have to bring in some science and some education. But there is something that people who have this generational knowledge can teach." -Algeo Che Casul
Episode Description:
The majority of wildlands are privately owned. This fact can help us understand the extent of our impact as landowners and as neighbors. In order to see changes, we need to support each other and promote responsible land management practices. This week, we are going back to the past to discover how our ancestors protected their lands from fire. As a 7th generation landowner in Sonoma, Algeo Che Casul shares practical wisdom on land stewardship passed on to him by his great grandfathers. Jennifer and Che, his middle name but also his moniker, talk about fire mitigation practices such as keeping the land healthy, employing natural grazers, and using prescribed fires to prevent bigger, more destructive fires in the future. Che also shares how he became a resiliency hub for himself, his family, and his neighbors. The greatest inheritance we can give our children is a safer, more sustainable future. Don't miss today's episode!
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Highlights:
03:28 Prescribed Fires
11:48 Education for Land Treatment
16:47 The Grazers Controversy
21:43 Responsible Land Stewardship
25:44 Resiliency Practices
30:37 Priority Checklist
37:18 Fire Forward
42:30 Energy and Equity
45:22 Generational Sustainability
From the publisher's feed
How to Disaster is a podcast for people navigating the aftermath of disaster — and for the leaders, helpers, and decision-makers working to support…
Hosted by Jennifer Gray Thompson, CEO of After the Fire USA, the show makes disaster recovery clearer, more human, and less overwhelming. Each episode helps listeners understand what happens after the headlines fade: how recovery systems work, why decisions matter, what communities need, and how people find their way forward.
Through thoughtful conversations with survivors, practitioners, policymakers, storytellers, and community leaders, How to Disaster translates complex issues into grounded, accessible insight. Alongside Jennifer’s conversations, wildfire survivor, Kim Marshall, brings listeners closer to the lived reality of recovery through on-the-ground conversations with people impacted by disaster.
The show does not sensationalize crisis or debate climate politics. Instead, it offers clarity, context, and connection for people living through disaster and those trying to help.
If you are recovering, supporting someone who is, or trying to better understand how disaster reshapes lives and communities, this podcast is here to help you feel less alone and understand what comes next.