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"It's all about hope. And hope is what carried slaves through the worst discrimination… So hold on to hope because tomorrow shall come." -Lorez Bailey
Episode Description:
What makes leadership harder than it already is? It's when you're caught between being a leader that everybody needs and someone that your self need. Today, Jennifer interviews Lorez Bailey, the Executive Officer of Chop's Teen Club, a non-profit that provides a safe space for teens. Lorez gives us a glimpse of this unique mission and how it impacts recovery. Jennifer and Lorez also discuss remarkable points about connecting families to resources, staying true to your mission without a mission drift, the need for leaders to care for themselves, a secret path to conquer fear, weaving the fun and the laughter in your assignment, and the secret to being authentic and vulnerable without losing your credibility as a trusted leader. Also, learn some common mistakes to avoid if you are to extend help to disaster-affected families. As an African-American, Lorez also shares what leadership looks like amidst equity issues. Tune in and discover the power of hope in giving light during the darkest of times.
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Highlights:
02:14: Teen Responders
10:14: Teens Do Need
16:54: Listen to the Kids
20:25: Don'ts to Avoid
27:29: Overcoming Challenges
36:41: Improve Virtual Community Connection
41:43: Leadership During a Disaster
46:47: Self-Care How To's
57:16: How to Face Your Fear
01:04:27: Stay Out of Despair
"Advocate for each other. Come up together and rebuild together." -Belia Ramos
Communication is a crucial factor in a successful recovery and rebuild project. But with all the chaos, communication is also the first defense to fail. In this episode, Jennifer interviews Napa District Supervisor, Belia Ramos about effective communication strategies. They talk about the major elements of getting the message out: the message, the spokesperson, and the manner of transmission. Belia also stresses the vital role of the board and its constituents in ensuring that communication within and outside the community is supervised. You are an important part of the rebuild work! Tune in and learn where you are most effective and how you can advocate for your community to be able to pay it forward.
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Highlights:
02:16: The Role of the Board
08:45: Management Amidst Chaos
16:32: Communication Failures
26:01: Finding the Right Messenger
30:16: The Work Has Just Begun
39:46: Learn to Distinguish Yourself
45:02: Find Your Groove
52:54: The Simplest Thing You Can Do
"Don't isolate first responders by making them into heroes. The greatest thing that anyone can do is just say, 'thank you for your service.'" -Susan Farren
"We owe it to our first responders to do whatever we can to help make their jobs easier." -Bailey Farren
Episode Description:
First responders are no doubt, modern-day heroes. But could naming them as such do them more harm than good? This week, our focus is on helping the helpers. Jennifer interviews two outstanding pioneers in this field, Susan Farren, Founder of First Responders Resiliency and Bailey Farren, CEO and co-founder of Perimeter. Our mother and daughter tandem talk about their unique work in helping first responders and their families mitigate post-traumatic symptoms caused by a disaster. Sue shares her research about the unwanted and subtle effects these events have on first responders while Bailey speaks about tools to help both first responders and citizens gain quick access to needed information. We also learn Sue's secret in getting fundings and the 2 worst questions anyone could ask a first responder. It's overwhelming when we get the help we so needed at the right time from a complete stranger. Tune in and learn how you can show gratitude and return the favor you received from today's podcast!
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Highlights:
01:51 Different but Effective Ways to Help the Helpers
05:00 Why Helpers Need Help
14:11 Unwanted Responses
17:52 Access Disaster Information Made Easy
26:47 Mom and Daughter Tandem
32:01 What About Fundings (During COVID)?
39:03 The Worst Questions to Ask First Responders
44:07 The Citizen's Role
47:22 A Project for First Responders
"As soon as we start to understand and see the benefits of private sector contribution, and then we set the roadmap, so we can understand how we can all play, great things will come from it." -Renae Hanvin
Episode Description:
When businesses are resilient, communities can thrive! Join Jennifer and Corporate2Community Founder, Renae Hanvin as they discuss the crucial role of the private sector in recovery. Renae narrates how they were able to align the right corporate to match the specific needs of a community. She expounds further on this framework as a bridge to meet immediate needs and support recovery in the long run. They also discuss how the public and the private sector can serve as one instead of operating independently. The private sector is a vital component of recovery before, during, and even post-disaster. Press play and hear practical ways on how businesses can show up authentically during a crisis.
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Highlights:
01:05: From Corporate to Community
05:55: Disaster and the Private Sector
09:33: Output vs Outcomes
13:01: The Relationship Between the Public and Private Sector
18:39: Capitalism vs Authentic Contribution
"If we're all working together, we will quilt these wonderful disparate pieces into a beautiful quilt solution." -Debbie Mason
Are you a fire survivor? This week, Jennifer and Debbie Mason talk about what it means to be a fire survivor- the struggles within and how to keep thriving. The 2017 wildfire left physical and emotional scars. Some wounds may heal and the things lost can be replaced. But lying beneath is a psychological trauma that most people tend to brush off, which is detrimental to the person and to others as well. Debbie works to bridge the gap in the mental health system, and she shares practical ways to do so in your community. She also shares positive mental health strategies and advice. Don't miss out on today's episode!
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Highlights:
02:05: The Huge Rift in Mental Health
06:58: The Realization
12:29: Who is a Fire Survivor?
18:18: Effective Dealing with the Resistance
25:11: Apps For Mental Health To Install Today!
29:22: How to Get Through a Disaster
34:18: Watch Out for These Indicators
"We need to start from a place of humility and understanding that with ever-changing situations, we're not always going to get it right, but we can always learn." -Belia Ramos
Episode Description:
Talk about equity and cultural differences. Communicating can be a real challenge when multiple languages are spoken in a community. To help individuals understand the message accurately and on-time, technology and AI may not be enough. This week, Scott interviews Napa Supervisor, Belia Ramos about the non-technical, but equally important side of communication. Belia emphasizes the importance of cultural competency in addressing communication barriers, the type of communication, and the people who will receive the message. The effectiveness of communication is crucial in the survival of each individual in the community. Tune in for wisdom and approaches to enhance your community's communication strategies.
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Highlights:
03:24: Cultural Competence in Community
06:32: Communication Mistranslation Solved
16:29: Establishing Trust in Communication
19:09: Addressing Language and Cultural Difference
26:22: Pivot in Communication
"That whole idea of what being a citizen means is that we all have responsibilities to make our government work and to make our communities stronger." -Cynthia Murray
Episode Description:
The private sector is no doubt one of the first to be greatly affected in the event of a disaster. While we are all looking to revive the economy, some changes must be implemented first. Our guest, Cynthia Murray, the CEO of North Bay Leadership Council refers to this as the "next normal." Scott and Cynthia discuss the responsibilities of citizens and leaders in rebuilding a stronger, more resilient community. They also talk about rescaling and upskilling, equity, upstream investments, and more. We are an ecosystem, interconnected with each other. If we work together, the extent of what we can rebuild is unimaginable. Tune in and discover the power of collective will!
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Highlights:
02:58: The Next Normal
07:56: How to Prepare Businesses
16:03: VUCA Times
20:37: Investment Matters
24:02: Build a Collective Will
28:17: Break the Political Tension
"There's no one perfect solution to any of this. It's a collection of a lot of different tools that can help make us safer, more resilient, and hopefully avoid any catastrophes and loss of life." -Reva Feldman
Episode Description:
Modernization made communication easier and faster, at least when there is a supply of power. But what if you're community faces a train of disaster and a major power outage? Join our guest host, Scott Adams, as he interviews Reva Feldman, the City Manager of Malibu. Reva relates how the Woolsey fire greatly challenged their preparedness as a community and what lessons came as a result. Reva provides tips on how leaders can continue to provide the urgently needed information and where citizens can get the latest news even in these situations. She also talks about the importance of having a redundant system and organized evacuation plans. We are facing the threat of bigger and longer disasters. Tune in and learn how to think big and be prepared!
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Highlights:
02:28: A Train of Disasters
10:19: Communication Challenges
14:51: How to Prepare
18:22: No Power? No Problem!
22:20: Organized Evacuation
26:41: Think Big!
"Be very careful what you promise unless you know you can deliver something. There is enough heartbreak in a disaster that people don't need to hear that you're going to solve all their problems, and then you don't." -Charles Brooks
The last thing we want to do in a disaster is to create another disaster, that's why having an organization to help build a system is invaluable. This week, Jennifer interviews Charles Brooks, the Executive Director of Rebuild Paradise Foundation. The Rebuild Paradise Foundation, incubated through the North Valley Community Foundation, is a grassroots movement of Camp Fire survivors and community leaders from the public and private sectors who are dedicated to serving the long-term needs of Butte County's disaster-affected residents, businesses, and workforce. Founded in January of 2019 under the mentorship of Rebuild Northbay Foundation, this non-profit foundation provides access to resources and helps lower barriers to entry for those repopulating the disaster affected areas. The Rebuild Paradise Foundation is proud to partner with other non-profits, corporate donors, private donors, and government agencies to accomplish our mission.
Charles talks about building a sustainable model- from conceptualizing to framing projects that will serve the community best. We also learn how to measure and reach the target population, leverage resources to get the most impact, work with the public sector, relate your story, and furnish implementation. Emergent leaders are humans too. Hear Charles' advice on how to avoid crashes and burns and be sustainable in giving. Most importantly, never give up on your dream to get people back to their homes. If you are receiving a chain of rejections to prospect funders, tune in and find out the secret to turning their NO into an ABSOLUTELY YES!
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Highlights:
01:57: The Building of a Rebuild Org
07:50: The Value of Connections
12:33: The How of Fundraising
21:32: Facing the Hurdles
29:01: Develop Relationship with the Public Sector
32:17: Telling Your Story
40:49: Sustainable Giving
45:12: Do You Have a Disaster Buddy?
52:12: How to Create a Rebuild Organization
56:02: Be Careful What You Promise
"We cannot and should not let our community down and go through another wildfire and lose them their life. That should be our mission, that should be our goal." -Brad Sherwood
What mission do you have as a wildfire survivor? Today, Jennifer sits with Brad Sherwood, the Co-Founder and VP of Larkfield Resilience Fund, to discuss how we can be advocates, both as a local citizen and at the state level. Hear how the community and the government can work together to meet emerging needs, manage funding, invest in long-term projects, develop a systematic plan, and implement that plan efficiently. Tune in and find out how to make your community better and stronger, not only for the present but also for future generations.
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Highlights:
03:38: How One Night Can Change Everything
12:19: Who Are The Cavalry?
17:58: What Constituents Can Do
27:24: How to Advocate For Your Community
34:15: How to Advocate in the State Level
39:24: A Time for Long-Term Investments to Stop Wildfire
44:15: 2 Ways to Manage Funding
49:04: How to Survive and Build After a Disaster
From the publisher's feed
How to Disaster is a podcast for people navigating the aftermath of disaster — and for the leaders, helpers, and decision-makers working to support…
Hosted by Jennifer Gray Thompson, CEO of After the Fire USA, the show makes disaster recovery clearer, more human, and less overwhelming. Each episode helps listeners understand what happens after the headlines fade: how recovery systems work, why decisions matter, what communities need, and how people find their way forward.
Through thoughtful conversations with survivors, practitioners, policymakers, storytellers, and community leaders, How to Disaster translates complex issues into grounded, accessible insight. Alongside Jennifer’s conversations, wildfire survivor, Kim Marshall, brings listeners closer to the lived reality of recovery through on-the-ground conversations with people impacted by disaster.
The show does not sensationalize crisis or debate climate politics. Instead, it offers clarity, context, and connection for people living through disaster and those trying to help.
If you are recovering, supporting someone who is, or trying to better understand how disaster reshapes lives and communities, this podcast is here to help you feel less alone and understand what comes next.