Lisa Carrillo works with couples to help them find and foster the experience of flow, that state of being open-hearted and open-minded, attuned to whatever is present. We talk about her work, and ways her understandings overlap with the seven words that are the basis of our podcast.

Dr. Chalmer's book Reigniting the Spark: Why Stable Relationships Lose Intimacy, and How to Get It Back is available here, or wherever you get your books.

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Music: Besamim (Spices) by Bruce Chalmer, performed by Fyre and Lightning Consort