The Mindrise Podcast

How to Get Back Up Again with Jessica Ball


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In this deeply honest conversation, Bailey sits down with Jessica Ball to talk about what it really looks like to get back up again — after burnout, postpartum identity shifts, career pivots, fear, failure, and seasons of feeling disconnected from yourself.

Jessica shares the story of walking away from a secure Homeland Security career at 21, moving to the Outer Banks with no real plan, becoming an ocean rescuer despite having almost no experience, and eventually finding purpose in EMS, motherhood, and community-building as the founder of Rize Run Club.

Together, Bailey and Jessica unpack the tension so many high-achievers live inside of: being successful on paper while quietly feeling stuck, numb, disconnected, or deeply unfulfilled internally.

This episode is about discomfort, evolution, courage, identity, and the willingness to take the next right step before you feel ready.

It's about learning that growth rarely feels graceful while it's happening — and realizing that sometimes the life that changes you most begins with a terrifying "Here I go."

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