This week's show is with Marina Pearson. Marina, is the No1 best-selling author of the multi-award winning book Goodbye Mr Ex, and international speaker. She supports professionals and entrepreneurs to transform all types of stress into effortless results and living through her coaching and events. She is known for catalysing busy and stressed entrepreneurs and professionals out of their stress and struggle into effortless results so they leave feeling at peace and free.

In this week's show, Marina shared how has recently broken up with her husband and father of her young son and has been going through the process of creating a new way of relating to and co-parenting with her ex-husband.  In essence, we talked how to have a healthy break-up.

What you'll learn from this episode:

• Even when we're in challenging period and it seems as though everything is dark and awful, we all have moments when we don't feel that way - when our thinking clears. It's so freeing to notice that because we understand that our experience isn't coming from the break-up but from our thoughts but our thoughts about the break-up. "We're not on a rollercoaster, we are the rollercoaster."

• Everything's going to be fine, no matter what. Who we really are is always perfect and untouched by the stuff that's going on in our human lives. We all have the capacity to connect into the true self beneath the turmoil.  We have innate resilience, we are never broken or f*cked up

• There's a universal force thats constantly rearranging things - in ways that we can perceive as being good and lucky and in ways that we can perceive as being bad and unlucky but really it's not personal, it's just life unfolding as it does.

• In any relationship, the other person's level of awareness or state of mind is largely irrelevant  to your experience of it - for example, Marina described how her own level of awareness was key to how she experienced the break-up.