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In this episode hosts Jim Lewis and Chris Painter talk to Estonia's former ambassador at large for cyber diplomacy Heli Tirmaa-Klaar. They discuss the IT coalition’s work on the ‘future of warfare’ in Ukraine, NATO and EU collaboration, and the state of the UN’s work on cyber.
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In this episode hosts Jim Lewis and Chris Painter talk to Estonia's former ambassador at large for cyber diplomacy Heli Tirmaa-Klaar. They discuss the IT coalition’s work on the ‘future of warfare’ in Ukraine, NATO and EU collaboration, and the state of the UN’s work on cyber.

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