We invited back our friend, Pastor Bob Hiller, to talk to us about how to pray. Bob is also a co-host and the Lutheran perspective on the "White Horse Inn" podcast.

He recently published a booklet "The Gift of Prayer" on what it looks like to pray in light of the gospel. This conversation is great for those who struggle to pray perfectly, or wonder how to make their prayers effective.

Join us this October in San Diego for the Here We Still Stand Conference

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