As Zev's interest in the McGonigal Affair intensifies, he calls Jeff Stein of SpyTalk for some advice. Jeff is a former intelligence reporter for Newsweek and The Washington Post and current head honcho at SpyTalk, which he describes as "Intelligence for thinking people."

Zev asks Jeff what would make a 22-year veteran of the FBI like Charlie McGonigal turn against his country. Jeff's insightful response on the mindset of an FBI agent is a must-listen and also reveals what his sources are telling him about McGonigal.

He also tells us a story about lunch, or was it drinks, with Christopher Hitchens and a journalist for Tass named Boris.

Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter @SpyTalker 

Read the SpyTalk substack at SpyTalk.co 

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A personal note from Zev:

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Dear friend: 

Thank you for tuning into Narativ's podcast. For almost seven years, I've been revealing the truth about the war on democracy. It's been the privilege of my lifetime.

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Your support will power Narativ into the future, plus you'll receive great perks, including exclusive content like "Spy Murdoch."

More importantly, you'll contribute to this decisive moment in history. 

Your presence in this journey means the world to me.

Thank you,

Z

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