How to Sell Art: The Abundant Artist Podcast

Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining Cory in today’s podcast is Kiffanie Stahle, the “friendly” lawyer who helps artists get the legal side of their art businesses in order. A firm believer in focusing on the “why” rather than the “what”, Kiffanie advises artists to first decide what they actually need to meet their business goals, rather than just investing big in legal matters that may not be required at all in their specific circumstances.

In this episode, Kiffanie spells out the six basic rules that every professional artist must adhere to, to avoid getting caught in the legal net. She mentions some free templates available on her website that may be a good starting point for artists just beginning their art career. Kiffanie also talks about how easy it could be to gather tax and other legal information in your state – often just a phone call away.

Tune in to today’s episode for more legal insights, a bit about Kiffanie’s minimalist life traveling the western US since 2020, and her goal to make life easier for small creative businesses. Well, legally at least.

Key Takeaways:

[1:12] Cory asks Kiffanie to tell the TAA audience a little about how she started her journey as a lawyer helping artists with legal dos and don’ts.

[3:00] Kiffanie reminisces about how she founded the artist's J.D. as a place to provide legal tools and resources for artists, and how it has now evolved into a membership community, offering books, courses and templates.

[4:38] How the year 2020 made a big life change for Kiffanie, and how her minimalist lifestyle impacted her legal thoughts.

[6:39] Is getting a trademark necessary?

[7:00] Kiffanie believes that there are only six things that are required of artists when it comes to the legal side of their small creative businesses.

[9:49] Kiffanie explains how a simple email can also be a valid contract in the eyes of the law.

[11:39] Cory asks Kiffanie how Entrepreneur Magazine has a trademark, given that a business name that merely describes what you do is not eligible for a trademark.

[16:15] When do you need to do more legal stuff, if you have covered the six necessary tasks already?

[17:54] Kiffanie has a free template on her website which artists can use to create a really simple, easy and readable privacy policy and terms of service.

[20:04] Cory asks Kiffanie to quickly define GDPR and CCPA.

[22:02] If your creative stuff is primarily targeted at children, there’s a whole lot of separate laws that you will need to be cognisant of.

[23:25] Cory asks Kiffanie to explain what one needs to do to comply with the various tax requirements.

[24:18] Kiffanie often recommends her clients to get in touch with their respective Chambers of Commerce for understanding the tax rules and regulations applicable to them.

[31:39] At what point should artists start reviewing their tax affairs on a regular basis?

[33:30] Who are enrolled agents, and how are they different from CPAs?

[35:35] To decide what legal tasks you must complete, you must know where your business is going.

[37:29] Kiffanie has been out of social media for three years now – this is one of her experiments in life minimalism.

[38:22] Cory asks Kiffanie how artists would get in touch with her if they are curious to learn more about legal matters or need legal help.

[40:06] What is Kiffanie’s takeaway from spending so much time working with creative people?

[42:08] Cory thanks Kiffanie for a super-informative episode!

Mentioned in This Episode:

the artist's J.D.

Stahle Law website

Kiffanie’s Website Policy Mad Libs

Kiffanie’s Legal Roadmap book

Kiffanie’s Join me for coffee each Friday

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Cory welcomes Wildlife Painter and Fiber Artist Eric Jackson, who specializes in unique batik illustrations of Chesapeake Bay and Mid-Atlantic species, in today’s podcast. Eric had had a deep interest in water quality and aquatic life since a young age, especially in and around the Chesapeake region where he grew up. Eric was teaching art in public school when he started selling his art at local art shows in Maryland in 2017. After the 2020 pandemic, he left teaching to pursue his art career full time.

In this episode, Eric explains how he conceptualized the One Hundred Shores project, how it connected Art and Ecology, and how it grew in scope – even without much social media presence at that time – to become a huge storytelling project and a successful Kickstarter initiative eventually. Eric also discusses his passion for teaching art, and why he thinks it’s important for kids to learn art in school.

Key Takeaways:

[:46] Cory mentions how fascinating it has been to watch Eric’s art career evolve over the years. [2:33] The kind of art Eric makes. What led him to make the kind of art he does. [4:22] Eric is an outdoor person, spending his free time hunting and fishing. How does that impact the subject matter of his artworks? [5:17] People are not really familiar with the batik technique and how the pieces are made. Eric often receives questions on that account. [6:53] Cory wants to talk about Eric’s Chesapeake Bay project (i.e. the One Hundred Shores project) as he thinks it’s a really good window into (1) what Eric’s art is about, and (2) how people respond to his work. [7:09] Talking about the audience for his work, Eric identifies two distinct segments. [9:00] Eric discusses the One Hundred Shores project in detail. How the Chesapeake Bay and its ecosystem are connected with the residents in the area. [11:08] How the One Hundred Shores project connects Art and Ecology, and how that resonates with people. [11:48] How did Eric conceptualize the One Hundred Shores project? How did it evolve from the ideation period? [14:04] Eric gives an example of the stories collected during the One Hundred Shores project. [18:32] How Eric got the word out when he initiated the project. [21:00] Eric launched a separate website for the One Hundred Shores project. Why does he keep it distinct from his regular website? [22:40] How the One Hundred Shores project press release helped spread the word further, and made people and organizations reach out to Eric to learn more about his project. How his earlier lesson with TAA helped him put together the press release. [24:19] Cory asks Eric about the latest status of the One Hundred Shores project. [26:29] Where people can buy Eric’s One Hundred Shores project t-shirts from. [28:02] Cory congratulates Eric on the success of his One Hundred Shores project, and mentions that it’s a very interesting example for artists looking for starting a project on a greater scale or planning to take their art to a bigger audience. [30:48] After years of making art privately, Eric started showing his work to people only as recently as 2017. [35:05] Eric talks about his love for teaching. [35:43] Why it is important for kids to learn art in school. [39:07] Advocating for “Art for art’s sake” and maintaining the integrity of Art as a discipline. [39:53] Why Eric considers leaving teaching his biggest professional decision till date. [40:45] What is Eric looking forward to for the rest of 2023? [44:00] Cory thanks Eric for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:

Eric Jackson’s Website One Hundred Shores Story narrated by Eric in the podcast

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

In 2016, social media platforms ruined themselves for artist Gwenn Seemel. That was the year they stole the last bit of agency from their users — replacing chronology with algorithms — and rendered themselves obsolete to her practice.

In this podcast, Gwenn talks about her decision to leave social platforms altogether; the personal, professional, and moral reasons behind her choice; and the surprising human and financial outcome of this bold stance.

Join Gwenn and Cory in a discussion on the human aspect of relationships, the collective nature of art, Capitalism as a force of destruction in the world, and a few solid tips on how to run your business away from social media, but still online and connected.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes long-time friend and artist Gwenn Seemel to ask her why she recently decided to leave social media.

[4:09] Gwenn touches on her business ROI fears without social media as well as some surprising psychological aspects of pulling away from the platforms.

[6:14] Increased emotional strength and stable income are Gwen’s current state of business despite using no social platforms.

[7:08] Standing up to Facebook’s — and most other social platforms’ — moral grayscale.

[12:11] Leaving social media: the need for resiliency and building mental health.

[15:15] Building one-on-one relationships with buyers and collectors. Gwen explains how she manages her contact list.

[22:34] Tracking inventory when your body of work has grown substantially.

[26:48] Patreon — and patronage — is not charity. Gwenn and Cory touch on the underestimated benefits of this type of platform.

[33:30] Gwen’s invaluable Patreon tips.

[36:06] When you can’t be your own “hype-man” – tips for the socially disinclined.

[38:23] Cory probes Gwenn’s thoughtfulness and the process she uses to think through questions in-depth.

[42:10] Jobs With Justice and why Gwenn cares about proper pay for anyone in any job.

[49:29] Did Capitalism lift the stark majority of the masses out of absolute poverty? Gwenn debates passionately for the dismantling of the aforementioned system!

[54:22] The German business example — welcome to the board! Cory shares his own luck as it relates to a discussion on capitalism and the state of the world.

[57:06] Why did Cory choose to go to college despite growing up in an ecosystem that didn’t foster it?

[58:56] Cory thanks Gwenn for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:

Gwenn Seemel’s website

All My Friends Live in My Computer: Trauma, Tactical Media, and Meaning, by Samira Rajabi

Taffy, Amanda. 2021. The Role of the Arts During COVID-19: Gendered Expressions of Resilience & Empowerment. Doctoral dissertation, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

Artwork archive

Jobs With Justice

The Future We Need: Organizing for a Better Democracy in the Twenty-First Century, by Erica Smiley and Sarita Gupta

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today to share about his artistic journey is Will Eskridge, a self-proclaimed weirdo that celebrates the ugly, the forgotten, and the voiceless through his art.

Growing up with a veterinarian as a father and an artist as a mother carved Will’s path of keeping the love of animals alive through his art. Many of his art pieces feature the less-appreciated animals of the world paired alongside a human vice. He also occasionally explores other realms of art such as abstraction and landscapes. His art can be found on murals throughout the city of Athens, Georgia; social media; the occasional exhibit; and his website.

In this episode, Will shares his journey to becoming a fully-fledged artist, how he discovered what he loves to create, and how he navigates the business side of his art career.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes Will Eskridge to the podcast and they recount how they originally met.

[1:49] Where ‘home’ is for Will.

[2:30] Will describes his art and shares his journey to becoming a fully-fledged artist.

[6:15] Will’s art journey post-art school.

[12:44] In 2014, Will quit his job and began pursuing art full-time. How has his artistic style developed since then?

[22:38] Will elaborates on the variety of animal subjects he paints and where his ideas for his paintings generally come from.

[29:13] How Will became known for his collection of art that he dubs, ‘Weird animals with low-grade sins.’

[32:02] The importance of creating art you want to create rather than creating to sell.

[32:45] How/where Will sells his art.

[36:00] Will highlights what he does, in particular, that helps market his artwork.

[40:22] Why having more social media followers doesn’t always mean more sales.

[43:47] Will discusses his mental diagnoses and how they impact his life and art.

[47:11] Will shares how his mental diagnosis impacts his life, art, and business.

[50:12] About Will’s pets!

[52:05] What’s next for Will?

[53:44] Cory thanks Will for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:Will Eskridge’s Art Website

1,000 True Fans Essay

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is Dan Cleary, a professional portrait and fine art photographer living in Dayton, Ohio. As the owner, operator and photographer of Cleary Creative Photography studio, Dan has served the Dayton region for more than 30 years. He works with various clientele from individuals, families, and small companies to fortune 500 corporations. Additionally, Dan has written and published the book, Wright Brothers: Then and Now, a compelling visual tribute to the pioneers of flight.

In this episode, Dan shares about his journey in discovering his passion for photography, how he came to open his own photo studio and build a client base, and the process of creating his newly published book.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] How Dan Cleary got started in photography.

[7:54] Dan’s photography journey post-grad school; How he came to learn his strengths in photography and open up his own photo studio, Cleary Creative Photography.

[10:44] About a recent large client of Dan’s.

[13:05] Where Dan grew up and his strong connection with Dayton, Ohio.

[17:55] About Dan’s photography series and book, Wright Brothers: Then and Now, and how he seamlessly blended historical images with the modern-day images he shot.

[25:22] How did Dan orchestrate such a large project both logistically and financially?

[29:13] How Dan managed his travel logistics and international flights for this project.

[33:36] Dan shares his experiences with marketing and getting his Wright Brothers book on the shelves.

[41:33] Why relationships are crucial in any business – especially art – for return customers.

[43:20] Cory thanks Dan for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:Cleary Creative Photography

Cleary Fine Art Photography

Henri Cartier-Bresson: The Decisive Moment

Wright Brothers: Then and Now, by Dan Cleary

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

This week on The Abundant Artist podcast, Cory is thrilled to be joined by a return guest – Patricia Vargas! The last time Patricia was on the podcast was about 5 years ago – and suffice to say, a lot has changed since then! If you don’t already know Patricia, she is the owner of the renowned Parima Studio. Currently residing in Chino, CA, with her husband and tabby cat, Arya, Patricia is a visual artist who combines her passions of painting, designing, and technology to create large-scale, custom, abstract art using her computer as her canvas.

In this episode, Patricia shares what has changed for her since she was last on the podcast, how her art career has evolved, what her experience was like during the pandemic (and how she has adapted to these changes), and what she does day-to-day to balance her business practices while minimizing distractions. Patricia also offers some advice to other artists who may be interested in getting started in the digital art space and what they can do to market themselves online!

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes Patricia Vargas back to the podcast!

[:56] What Patricia has been up to for the last five years since she was last on the podcast and how her art career has evolved.

[3:00] What Patricia loves about creating digital paintings.

[3:45] How Patricia’s “nerdiness” shows up in her professional career as a digital painter.

[5:35] How Patricia is selling her digital paintings as prints online.

[7:05] Patricia explains what a general licensing deal looks like for her.

[8:09] Films that Patricia’s work has appeared in.

[8:49] How does Patricia license her work to a hotel? What does that process look like?

[10:40] How did Patricia build up relationships with art consultants?

[12:07] Patricia shares how she got started in being featured in a variety of magazines.

[13:25] Would Patricia agree that blogging in 2010 is what social media is today?

[14:09] How blogging helped Patricia get featured in magazines, in turn, helping her be noticed by art consultants.

[15:32] Does Patricia still do acrylic painting outside of her career with digital painting?

[16:25] Patricia’s favorite tools and technology for digital painting!

[17:37] The difference between the iPad Pro and the XP Pen Tablet.

[18:34] Does Patricia have any favorite Procreate toolsets?

[19:34] What Patricia likes about the XP Pen Tablet.

[20:11] What is the desktop device that Patricia connects her tablet to?

[21:30] How Patricia pivoted and adapted during the pandemic as a digital artist that sells their prints online.

[25:23] How Patricia balances her day-to-day business practices and minimizes distractions.

[27:53] Why has Patricia cut down on which social media platforms she focuses on?

[28:59] How Patricia leverages Pinterest and Tailwind to get leads.

[31:47] How Patricia tracks profitability with her ads.

[32:55] What books is Patricia reading right now?

[36:26] Patricia shares about a new exciting road opening up for her and her business.

[39:49] Cory thanks Patricia for joining the podcast once again!

Mentioned in This Episode:The Abundant Artist Podcast: “Managing a Successful Print Studio with Patricia Vargas”

Patricia’s Etsy Shop: Parima Creative Studio

Patricia’s Instagram: Parima Studio

Patricia’s Website

Procreate

Apple Pencil

iPad Pro

XP Pen Tablet

Adobe Photoshop

Corel Painter

Creative Market

Epson Printers

Pinterest

Tailwind

The Dutch House, by Ann Patchett

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is Creative Director and Set Designer, Marina Skye! Skye does freelance set design and creative projects for restaurants, recording artists, designers, and clothing stores – just to name a few. Her creative designs have caught the attention of the fine art world; platinum recording artist, Jidenna; the infamous Stankonia studios; 2Chainz’ Street Execs, Mike Will’s Studio; and many more!

In this episode, Skye shares her journey as a creative professional and set designer, how she began building out her portfolio when she was first starting out, the exciting doors she has opened from always being open to new challenges and opportunities, the business side of how a set design project works from top to bottom, and what’s to come for the future of her business as she moves onwards and upwards!

Key Takeaways:

[:30] How Skye developed their aesthetic as an artist.

[2:02] About Skye’s background and their pathway as an artist.

[3:15] What Skye studied in college.

[3:29] Skye’s first job out of college and what led them to transition out of it and create their clothing line.

[6:18] How Skye began to develop a portfolio for their set design through decorating parties.

[8:06] Why Skye was OK with working for free while building her portfolio.

[11:28] How Skye’s free work transitioned into paid work.

[16:05] Skye shares about the sorts of opportunities that became available to her after her 6-month nightclub set design project.

[17:47] About Skye’s 3-month set design project, the Trap Music Museum.

[20:55] Skye breaks down the business side of how a set design project works.

[21:45] How the process of working on set design looks like from top to bottom.

[23:30] How Skye builds her mood boards and mockups for her clients.

[25:21] Who pays Skye when it comes to set designs for artists – the label or the artist themselves?

[25:55] The challenges of building set designs to be taken apart and put back up on the daily for touring artists.

[27:55] What Skye is excited about right now as an artist.

[29:50] How did COVID impact Skye’s business?

[32:35] Where to find Skye’s work online!

[33:17] Skye’s plans for the future on how to possibly expand her business.

[35:07] How Skye delegates in her business without being directly hands-on with all of her set designs.

[36:05] Cory thanks Skye for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:Set by Skye

Set by Skye on Instagram

Trap Music Museum

Candytopia

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Joining the podcast today is one-of-a-kind artist, Genesis Be. Genesis is a critically acclaimed poet, peace activist, and artist from Biloxi, Mississippi; with her work being featured in The Associated Press, New York Times, NY Daily News, Soledad O’Brien, and VICE. Often using theatrical protest during her live performances, Genesis brings attention to both the global and localized issues surrounding racial justice, the peace movement, queer visibility, and gender equity. Her goal with her art is to bring human dignity to the forefront of our divided world; to advocate for compassion, vulnerability, and the burning need for freedom.

In this conversation, Genesis highlights and calls attention to the importance of artistic expression from the soul; the connection between activism and art; her personal story of growth, expression, and exploration as an artist; and why it is that she does art. Genesis also shares insights on the importance of trying new things and getting messy, finding the balance in making money while staying true to yourself and discovering solace in solitude.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Genesis Be shares about her love for the people of Mississippi and why she sees it as part of her mission to spread the message of love about the people in her state.

[2:40] Genesis highlights examples of what makes the Mississippi especially resilient and inspirational.

[4:47] How Genesis would describe her art.

[6:16] How Genesis’s artistic expression differs in the various mediums she expresses herself in (such as art, music, poetry, theatre, etc).

[11:52] Genesis describes what an NFT is and why she began to engage with the blockchain as an artist.

[14:34] The importance of trying new things as an artist and not being afraid of getting messy.

[15:00] Genesis shares about her favorite videogame.

[16:58] About the powerful and important activism work Genesis has been doing throughout her life.

[22:09] Why Genesis paints stick figures that interact with barriers; her artistic mission statement.

[27:49] Genesis’s insights into why our youths’ mental health is eroding and the main drivers at play.

[32:21] Genesis’s experience with finding solace in loneliness and solitude.

[36:00] How writing played a key part in Genesis’s journey early on.

[37:50] The difference between art on social media vs. in person.

[41:24] How Genesis makes a living and supports herself financially as an artist.

[43:29] Genesis’s advice to other artists on making money.

Mentioned in This Episode:Genesis Be

Mississippi Rising Coalition

VyZen

“We Are Mississippi | Theo Sutton Interview”

Genesis’s activism work featured:

The Associated Press

New York Times

NY Daily News

Soledad O’Brien

VICE

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of “the starving artist” and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

Returning to the podcast today is Flora Bowley! Flora is a painter, pioneer, permission-giver, and author of four books: The Art of Aliveness, Brave Intuitive Painting, Creative Revolution, and Fresh Paint. She believes that creativity has the power to awaken, empower, heal, and transform; and that you have everything you need right now to reignite your creative fire.

Blending over twenty-five years of professional painting experience with her background as a yoga instructor, healer, and lifelong truth seeker, Flora shares her advice for creating art intuitively, letting go, and rediscovering your love of art (without getting caught up in the technicalities and perfectionism). She speaks about what we can do to get unstuck, how she guides artists through artistic exploration in her retreats, her wisdom around staying connected to your creativity, and more.

If you’ve been feeling the pressure around creating art and are struggling to let loose, have fun, and reconnect with why you began creating art – this episode is for you! As a retreat leader and guide for other artists, Flora has incredible insight into what it takes to reignite your love for creating and connecting to your artistic expression.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Cory welcomes Flora back to the podcast!

[:52] Flora shares what she has been up to since her last appearance on the podcast.

[2:55] About Flora’s new retreat center.

[5:05] What kind of retreats has Flora historically led? How have the retreats that she runs now shifted? Why does she love doing retreats?

[12:40] Flora shares what she believes the purpose of art is, and how she guides artists in creating raw, beautiful art from their souls.

[14:37] Bringing the art of creativity to non-artists. Flora’s advice on reconnecting to the love of simply creating without getting caught up in the technicalities and technique.

[19:37] What inspired Flora to buy her own retreat center? What inspires her to do this work?

[26:22] The silver lining of the pandemic with regards to creating, change, and community.

[28:27] About the two books that Flora published during the pandemic.

[30:26] Flora shares what it was like to transition from writing about painting to writing about ideas for her newest book.

[34:23] About Flora’s painting book that she released during COVID, Fresh Paint.

[37:03] The artist paradigm.

[41:01] Cory’s book recommendations.

[42:04] What art may come out of the great resignation? Why are artists and non-artists craving simplicity?

[45:19] What mindfulness looks like to Flora and how she engages in it.

[47:50] How does Flora exercise/move outside of creating?

[50:18] Where to learn more about Flora.

Mentioned in This Episode:Flora Bowley’s Website

Flora Bowley’s Books

“Brave, Intuitive Painting Careers with Flora Bowley” – Episode 5

“What It’s Like to Sell 100,000 Paintings with Jose Trujillo” – Episode 43

Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less, by Greg McKeown

Effortless: Make it Easier to Do What Matters Most, by Greg McKeown

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Welcome back to The Abundant Artist, the show that dispels the myth of ‘the starving artist’ and shares how you can live an abundant life as an artist and make a living from your talent one interview at a time.

This week, Cesar Biojo joins the podcast! Cesar is a Barcelona-based Colombian oil painter and co-founder of Kaleido, an online network that supports artists, collectors, and art galleries alike.

In their conversation together, Cesar shares about his process of creating his unique existential artwork, why existentialism fuels his work, and his invaluable advice on growing as an artist, becoming a better communicator, delving deeper into your work, and discovering your purpose. He also shares about Kaleido, its mission, and its fascinating augmented reality feature that allows users to virtually explore an artist’s gallery.

Key Takeaways:

[:30] Why Cesar often quotes Sartre alongside his work.

[6:04] How did Cesar find/create his purpose?

[10:55] How Cesar creates his work and how the concept of existentialism influences his process.

[14:44] How art and therapy collide.

[17:19] Cesar’s advice to young artists around the intersection of therapy, making a career of art, and inspiration.

[19:28] Cesar’s tips for growing and exploring as an artist.

[21:40] Why being able to explore existentialism, emotion, and philosophy can make you a better communicator but not necessarily a better artist.

[22:48] Cesar’s insights on whether or not you need a formal education to “make it” as an artist.

[24:22] What Kaleido is, what its mission is, and why Cesar is a part of it.

[28:47] About the augmented reality feature that is unique to Kaleido

[30:00] Cesar’s involvement in Kaleido and how Kaleido protects artists.

[33:06] Cesar’s predictions on NFTs.

[35:44] Cesar discusses the progression and future of augmented reality.

[39:55] Where they are planning on heading with Kaleido regarding augmented reality.

[42:50] Where and how to learn more about Kaleido.

[47:25] Cory thanks Cesar for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in This Episode:Cesar Biojo

Instagram @CesarBiojo

“How Cindy Sherman Redefined Self-Portraiture”

Kaleido

Ready Player One (2018, Film)

Minority Report (2002, Film)

Neuromancer, by William Gibson

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