First, a listener asks how a campaign can use the insane interview Trump did with Axios this week (1:00) and if any of this seemingly unshakable stuff actually sticks to the president (6:28).

Next, Joe weighs in on an Axios report that the VP choice is down to Susan Rice and Kamala Harris, and how the Obamas -- and maybe even another former president -- will help Joe Biden on the campaign trail. (7:30)

Then, Joe talks about how to fight back when Trump tries to delegitimize the election results -- there's a simple strategy. (17:37)

Finally, why Joe is not surprised that Republicans are helping Kanye West get on the ballot in several states, and what we all can do about it. (25:00)

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