On this episode we talk with Nathan Sobo, co-founder and CEO of Zed, the high-performance code editor that's reimagining how AI agents can improve developer workflows. 

Nathan shares lessons from building one of the most natural agentic coding experiences available, including why investing up front to automate the feedback loop to improve the quality of AI systems is worth it. He also shares some great product design insights that go beyond the code editor -- including how they were able to weave an AI agent into the UX of their already-collaborative product (just like a human collaborator), and how their "subtle mode" for code completion has helped win over AI-skeptical developers. 

Whether you're building coding tools or another AI product, this conversation is a fun listen for anyone who cares about crafting great products and incorporating AI in smart ways.