REFS NEED LOVE TOO

Howard Webb’s Lessons And Dealing With Negative Self-Talk


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Big games don’t get easier; you get better at carrying them. Ahead of my first State Cup final, I open up about nerves, preparation, and the quiet work that turns pressure into focus: fitness tuned for late sprints, gear and crew checks that prevent chaos, and a five-minute reset that keeps me in the match instead of in my head. The heart of the story is confidence earned over 1,500 matches and the decision to judge what’s in front of me, not the crowd around me.

Howard Webb’s The Man in the Middle adds hard-won wisdom to that mindset. We walk through his Goodison Park lesson on how dangerous it is to “hide” from decisions, the halftime mind games players use to tilt your judgment, and the power of owning mistakes quickly so the next call is clean. We also dig into respect, or the lack of it, even at the top level, and why referee solidarity is non-negotiable. From there, we push for practical change: body cameras that reduce abuse and dissent, and communication systems that help train new officials in real time. If the sidelines already have multiple cameras, it’s time the referee team had tools that protect and develop them too.

The mailbag brings warmth and urgency. A 60-year-old ref logging 60 games makes the case for body cams after assaults. A dad-daughter duo in North Carolina discovers how ref work builds confidence, grit, and a bond that outlasts any scoreline. For every late starter chasing a high assignment, there’s a reminder to keep family first; the matches will go on, but the breakfasts, concerts, and small moments at home matter most. Subscribe, share this with a ref who needs a lift, and leave a review telling us the one habit that steadies you before kickoff.

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REFS NEED LOVE TOOBy David Gerson

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