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Dr. Stephanie Rose-Belcher, COO of JMT Consulting, and Kristen Stine, HR Director at JMT Consulting, explore the real financial and human costs of nonprofit staffing. This discussion blends finance, HR, and leadership into a compelling narrative about how organizations can protect their missions by rethinking how they hire, onboard, and retain talent.
Stephanie begins by framing the evolution of nonprofit finance within a technological context. Reflecting on the industry’s shift from ledgers to AI-enabled platforms, she notes: “Technology lets finance leaders be much more of a strategist than ever before, not just someone crunching numbers and submitting reports.”, capturing a fundamental truth: today’s nonprofit financial leaders are central to strategy, not just compliance.
Kristen brings the HR dimension into focus by quantifying the staggering financial cost of turnover. “According to the Deloitte survey, we’re looking at anywhere between 50 and 200% of the annual salary of a person to recruit them, onboard them, and get them up to speed,” she warns. Beyond dollars, she points to the strain turnover places on morale, workload, and culture. Investing in retention, she argues, is not a “nice to have” but a fiscal necessity.
The discussion highlights how onboarding inefficiencies further magnify these costs. While skilled professionals may shorten the curve, Stephanie cautions that “to get to mastery and really know the organization and its nuances, it takes a hard four months for an experienced person and six months or more for others.” Without deliberate investment in training, mentorship, and culture-sharing, nonprofits risk losing ground during this critical period.
Both guests emphasize that solutions need not be costly. Flexible scheduling, sabbaticals, leadership development, and even creative benefits platforms can create workplaces that people want to stay in. They stress the importance of tailoring approaches across generations: younger staff may prioritize professional growth, while older or part-time staff may value flexible time. Equity, transparency, and HR creativity, they argue, can reconcile these different expectations.
The episode closes with a look ahead to JMT’s Innovate 2026 conference in Washington, DC—an event designed to unite finance leaders around not just technology, but broader trends shaping nonprofit leadership and sustainability.
This conversation challenges nonprofit leaders to view HR and finance as inseparable. Recruitment and retention decisions are not only about culture—they are also about stewardship of resources, organizational stability, and the ability to serve missions with consistency and strength.
#TheNonprofitShow #NonprofitLeadership #HRandFinance
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Our national co-hosts and amazing guests discuss management, money and missions of nonprofits!
12:30pm ET 11:30am CT 10:30am MT 9:30am PT
Send us your ideas for Show Guests or Topics: [email protected]
Visit us on the web:The Nonprofit Show
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Dr. Stephanie Rose-Belcher, COO of JMT Consulting, and Kristen Stine, HR Director at JMT Consulting, explore the real financial and human costs of nonprofit staffing. This discussion blends finance, HR, and leadership into a compelling narrative about how organizations can protect their missions by rethinking how they hire, onboard, and retain talent.
Stephanie begins by framing the evolution of nonprofit finance within a technological context. Reflecting on the industry’s shift from ledgers to AI-enabled platforms, she notes: “Technology lets finance leaders be much more of a strategist than ever before, not just someone crunching numbers and submitting reports.”, capturing a fundamental truth: today’s nonprofit financial leaders are central to strategy, not just compliance.
Kristen brings the HR dimension into focus by quantifying the staggering financial cost of turnover. “According to the Deloitte survey, we’re looking at anywhere between 50 and 200% of the annual salary of a person to recruit them, onboard them, and get them up to speed,” she warns. Beyond dollars, she points to the strain turnover places on morale, workload, and culture. Investing in retention, she argues, is not a “nice to have” but a fiscal necessity.
The discussion highlights how onboarding inefficiencies further magnify these costs. While skilled professionals may shorten the curve, Stephanie cautions that “to get to mastery and really know the organization and its nuances, it takes a hard four months for an experienced person and six months or more for others.” Without deliberate investment in training, mentorship, and culture-sharing, nonprofits risk losing ground during this critical period.
Both guests emphasize that solutions need not be costly. Flexible scheduling, sabbaticals, leadership development, and even creative benefits platforms can create workplaces that people want to stay in. They stress the importance of tailoring approaches across generations: younger staff may prioritize professional growth, while older or part-time staff may value flexible time. Equity, transparency, and HR creativity, they argue, can reconcile these different expectations.
The episode closes with a look ahead to JMT’s Innovate 2026 conference in Washington, DC—an event designed to unite finance leaders around not just technology, but broader trends shaping nonprofit leadership and sustainability.
This conversation challenges nonprofit leaders to view HR and finance as inseparable. Recruitment and retention decisions are not only about culture—they are also about stewardship of resources, organizational stability, and the ability to serve missions with consistency and strength.
#TheNonprofitShow #NonprofitLeadership #HRandFinance
Find us Live daily on YouTube!
Find us Live daily on LinkedIn!
Find us Live daily on X: @Nonprofit_Show
Our national co-hosts and amazing guests discuss management, money and missions of nonprofits!
12:30pm ET 11:30am CT 10:30am MT 9:30am PT
Send us your ideas for Show Guests or Topics: [email protected]
Visit us on the web:The Nonprofit Show
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