Before my chat with episode 5's main guest, The Michael Jackson Book Club's Shari Thurman Wilks joins me to tell us about an awesome project that The Book Club are doing this August to honor Michael Jackson's 65th Birthday.

Then, as seen on page 94 of my book “Humanitarian – The Real Michael jacksn,” Gwen Carino was PR officer at the Manila Hotel in The Philippines & was assigned to head their annual Orphan’s Christmas Party in 1996.

In this episode, Gwen tells us about how Michael Jackson volunteered his time over the day to help distribute Christmas presents to the kids as well as signing autographs and posing for photos. The story is a popular one in the fan community and it was lovely to get to hear all the details directly from Gwen.


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As seen on page 93 of my book “Humanitarian – The Real Michael Jackson,” in November of 1996, Michael Jackson visited Melbourne, Australia on his HIStory tour and arranged for busloads of sick patients from The Royal Children's Hospital” to visit him at his hotel and attend his concerts free of charge. Cystic Fibrosis sufferer Raphael Recht was a lucky fan that got to dance for Michael, go backstage and spend time with Michael and his entourage while in Melbourne. In this episode, Raph tells an amazing story about Michael asking him to go on tour and gifting him the first ever PlayStation in Australia.

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Charles White was a student at Cleveland Elementary College in Stockton in 1989 when the school came under attack by a man with a gun, killing 5 students and wounding over 30 more. The story is mentioned on page 39 of my book “Humanitarian – The Real Michael Jackson.”
 3 weeks after the shooting, Michael Jackson visited the school to support the students and teachers and to inspire the kids to go back to school. Charles was also there on the day Michael visited and, in this episode, he tells us all about it.
 Just a warning that some people may find some of the subjects discussed in this interview upsetting.


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In 2002, cystic fibrosis and double lung transplant survivor Natasha Kirker, her mother and two friends were invited to spend the day with Michael Jackson at his Neverland Valley Ranch home with thanks to the Make-A-Wish foundation. In this episode, Natasha tells us all about the day she spent at Neverland, including getting to visit Michael’s private residence where she got to speak with him, his children and other family members.
I didn’t discover Natasha’s story until AFTER my book was published, so this particular story isn’t in my book. I hope you enjoy the chat.




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In the first episode of the "Humanitarian - The REAL Michael Jackson" podcast, Paul Dwyer chats exclusively to "The Heal Los Angeles Foundation" co-founders John Muto & Prince Michael Jackson Jnr.
The guys chat about Paul's book, Michael Jackson's global humanitarian endeavors and how those efforts have impacted & motivated the work that John & Prince do on behalf of The Heal Los Angeles Foundation.

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A quick introduction to my new podcast "Humanitarian - The Real Michael Jackson" including a little back-story as to how I came to create the it and a sneak-peek of what will be coming up on the next episode.

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