If we understand reality, will that make us humble? This week, Abigail & Renny explore 1:13, the magnificent Cassie Robinson, and ask the question "what is humility?" They discuss the humbling of white characters in this episode as they are confronted with racist violence and explore the significance of Cassie & Dean's relationship in humbling them both.  

Content warning: This episode includes discussions of racism and violence. 

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