This week, Gretchen and Katie talk about what it means to be humble, as opposed to feeling insecure in our vocations. Insecurity and pride are actually closely related, as we become consumed with people's view of us, instead of finding our security and identity in the love of God. When we are rooted and established in the love of God, we are free to serve our neighbor.

But as we serve our neighbor, it's so easy to slip into wondering what our neighbors think about us, how we are being perceived, and become consumed with acheiving our goals, or consumed with our failures to reach our goals.

As an example, they talk about the writing and speaking world, where those who want to write, or want to speak go through various swings between insecurity and arrogance, as the goals to climb to greatness is a rocky one. There are coaches who try to help us believe that we are great, so that we can become great. But all of it is futile, when it is about us, and not about serving our neighbor.

The also use parenting as and example of how we struggle with this perception of ourselves. Humility is driven by reality, and roots us in reality, whereas insecurity and pride are rooted in what we wish is true, or what we fear is true.

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