Male sexually betrayed partners are often unseen, overlooked, and underresourced. Hear Ben Wilson's story of being the betrayed and the betrayer in his marriage. 

Ben is a Licensed Professional Counselor with 25+ years of experience. He is trained in EMDR for trauma and Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) for couple’s counseling. Ben co-authored Betrayed and Betrayer: Rescuing Your Marriage After The Affair out of his own broken and restored marriage. Learn more about intensive counseling with Ben at restoringthesoul.com.

Read Ben's free blog with 444 posts on healing infidelity here.

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If you want lasting freedom from porn, consider reading one of these 10 books: 

• Altogether You: Experiencing Personal and Spiritual Transformation with Internal Family Systems Therapy, by Jenna Riemersma
• Going Deeper: How The Inner Child Impacts Your Sexual Addiction, by Eddie Capparucci
• Intimate Deception: Healing the Wounds of Sexual Betrayal, by Sheri Keffer
• No Stones: Women Redeemed from Sexual Addiction, by Marnie Ferree
• Outgrow Porn: Find Lasting Freedom Without Fighting an Exhausting Battle—A Man's Guide to Healing, by Drew Boa
• Setting Us Free: An Unexpected Journey of Grace, by Nick Stumbo
• The Sex Talk You Never Got: Reclaiming the Heart of Masculine Sexuality, by Sam Jolman
• Surfing for God: Discovering the Divine Desire Beneath Sexual Struggle, by Michael John Cusick 
• Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing, by Jay Stringer
• Wired For Intimacy: How Porn Hijacks the Male Brain, by William Struthers

Also mentioned in this episode: 

• Boundaries For Your Soul: How to Turn Your Overwhelming Thoughts and Feelings into Your Greatest Allies, by Alison Cook and Kim Miller
• Redeemed Sexuality: 12 Sessions for Healing and Transformation in Community, by Andrew A. Boa (Drew)

Buy the Outgrow Porn bundle (paperback, ebook, workbook, and free online companion course) here.

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Dr. Eddie Capparucci interviews Drew Boa about his new book, Outgrow Porn: Find Lasting Freedom Without Fighting an Exhausting Battle—A Man's Guide to Healing. You'll learn the importance of understanding sexual fantasies, processing emotions, "surfing" sexual urges, and healing the inner child. 

Outgrow Porn is available now!

• Buy the book directly from Drew at outgrowporn.com
• Buy the book on Amazon with Drew's affiliate link at amzn.to/4lPkpEV
• Buy the Outgrow Porn Workbook at outgrowpornworkbook.com

Free resources for you:

• Download the first chapter PDF at drewboa.com/outgrow-porn-chapter-1
• Get the online companion course at drewboa.com/outgrowporn
• Download and share Outgrow Porn social media images here.

Let's celebrate and spread the word!

Drew Boa is the founder and CEO of Husband Material Ministries, where he helps men outgrow porn. He is the author of Outgrow Porn and Redeemed Sexuality—and the host of the Husband Material podcast and YouTube channel. Drew is passionate about changing brains, healing hearts, and saving relationships affected by porn. In 2015, Drew received his MA in Christian Formation & Ministry from Wheaton College Graduate School. Since then, he has completed training as a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP), Certified Brainspotting Practitioner (BSP), Unwanted Guide, and Inner Child Recovery Specialist. Drew offers support and guidance to outgrow porn through coaching, leading groups, hosting retreats, and speaking. Drew enjoys living in Colorado and going on adventures with his wife and kids. Connect with Drew at drewboa.com

Dr. Eddie Capparucci is a licensed professional counselor certified in treating Problematic Sexual Behaviors. He is the creator of the Inner Child Model™ for treating Addictive Behaviors, a unique approach that focuses on identifying unresolved childhood pain points and teaching individuals how to process emotional distress in healthy ways. He is the author of six books, including Going Deeper: How the Inner Child Impacts Your Sexual Addiction and Why Men Struggle to Love: Overcoming Relational Blind Spots. His latest book is Going Deeper for Betrayed Partners: Discovering Healing Through Your Inner Child.

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How did Marco Casanova go from addiction to gay porn while studying to be a Catholic priest to a life of chastity, healing, marriage, and fatherhood? This is a great story. Along the way, you'll get a beautiful introduction to Pope John Paul II's Theology of the Body—particularly what Marco has learned about the dignity of women and what it means to be a man.

Marco Casanova, M.Div., serves as Associate Director of Desert Stream Ministries. His journey with the Living Waters program began during his seminary years, when he sought healing from his own experience of sexual brokenness. After eight years in priestly formation, Marco discerned a new call to join the Desert Stream team. Today, he oversees Living Waters USA, equipping lay leaders to establish and lead effective healing groups within their church communities. Marco lives in Kansas City, MO, with his wife, Ania, and their daughter, Marianna.

More from Desert Stream Ministries:

• Website: desertstream.org
• YouTube: youtube.com/@DesertStreamMinistries

More on Theology of the Body:

• theologyofthebody.net
• tobinstitute.org

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What is sex tech? How is artificial intelligence (AI) changing the way people experience porn? Dr. Marianne Brandon explains how emerging technology is rapidly rewriting the script of how humans approach sex and relationships. You'll hear all about the dangers and opportunities (mostly dangers) of these trends and why imperfect human intimacy still irreplaceable. Everyone should hear this episode!

Dr. Marianne Brandon is a clinical psychologist, diplomat in sex therapy, author, and lecturer. She writes a popular Psychology Today blog, The Future of Intimacy, and co-hosts a podcast with her urologist husband, The Sex Doctors.  Dr. Brandon is the author of Monogamy: The Untold Story; and Unlocking the Sexy in Surrender: Using the Neuroscience of Power to Recharge Your Sex Life.  She co-authored Reclaiming Desire: 4 Keys to Finding Your Lost Libido. You can learn more about her work at www.drbrandon.net

Article mentioned in the episode:

Why Men May Gravitate To Sex Tech

More resources from Dr. Marianne Brandon:

• Blog - psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-future-intimacy 
• Podcast - thesexdoctorspodcast.com 
• Books - drbrandon.net/books/
• Website - drbrandon.net

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What is a coregasm/abgasm? How is it possible to have one? In this episode, you'll learn how I discovered coregasms, 4 ab exercises that can lead to a coregasm, and why I believe coregasms can help men outgrow porn.

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How does your story shape your sexual arousal template? Therapist Rick Manabat shares eye-opening examples of how specific sexual fantasies and porn preferences are subconsciously shaped by our stories. This is truly mind-blowing!

Rick Manabat is the owner and founder of Pneuma Therapeutic Services, with locations in Chicago and Colorado Springs. He has a Master's in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Trinity International University. Rick is a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) who is also trained in EMDR. He has been married to his best friend for almost 13 years, and they have three children. 

Learn more and connect with Rick at pneumachicago.com/rick-manabat

• Pneuma Counseling - Chicago
• Pneuma Counseling - Colorado Springs

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What parts of yourself do you hide, repress, or deny? Whatever is in your "shadow" can subconsciously drive everything you do. Roy Wooten unpacks the concept of the shadow, how it works, and what his healing journey has looked like—from not feeling lovable as a boy, to surviving sexual abuse, to breaking free through embodied healing experiences at The Crucible Project.

Roy Wooten serves as the Executive Director of The Crucible Project. With decades of experience as a counselor and ministry leader, Roy is deeply committed to personal transformation, relational health, and spiritual growth. He is best known for helping thousands of people improve their relationships through retreats, seminars, and coaching sessions. Learn more at thecrucibleproject.org/roywooten

More resources from Roy Wooten and The Crucible Project:

• Unstuck: 7 Steps to Break Free and Live Courageously (free eBook)
• Sign up for a Christian Men's Retreat (initial weekend)

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In this powerful live demo, John Kilmer guides Drew Boa in parts work focused on Drew's addiction to screens. This episode is an example of Manly Monday, one of the weekly HMA Coaching Calls. Learn more and join HMA this week only at joinHMA.com.

John Kilmer is a Mental Health Life Coach, Occupational Therapist, and Certified Husband Material Coach. He's a grateful follower of Jesus who is passionate about men's inner healing work. Learn more about John at relaxedcaregiver.com.

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What is shame? How does evil use shame against us, and what does healing look like? Dr. Curt Thompson explores shame through the lens of Scripture, neuroscience, and spiritual formation in community. Stay until the end to hear how Jesus meets us in our shame. What a beautiful conversation!

Dr. Curt Thompson is a compassionate psychiatrist who weaves together an understanding of interpersonal neurobiology (IPNB) and a Christian view of what it means to be human. Through Curt's workshops, books, private clinical practice, and other platforms, he helps people fully experience our deepest longing: to be known. Learn more at curtthompsonmd.com

More resources by Curt Thompson:

• The Being Known Podcast
• Confessional Communities
• The Soul Of Shame (book)
• All books by Curt Thompson

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