The iMac turns 25, Relay turns 10 (next year in London), print magazines apparently still exist, and listeners have questions about why Apple would ever want to buy Disney.

473: I Can Talk About the George Foreman Grill Now

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Both Jason (New York) and Myke (London) have had their hands on the new iPads and are here to report back with all the details. We discuss M4 surprises, iPad Air choices, iPad Pro use cases, and save a little time to Lawyer Up.

511: You’re Nice to Hold

We're trying to puzzle through some strange rumors about next week's iPad launch event. Also, the EU brings the iPad into the DMA party, Apple locks the Apple IDs of many people (including Myke!), and we shout out the OG Knowledge Navigator.

510: Jason Is Cool GOTO 10

The world's foremost e-reader podcast returns, but we also take time to talk about the appeal of retro game emulators, iPad and iPhone rumors, and the possible end of Apple's leather replacement material.

509: Save the Fines

Skepticism about the future of the Vision Pro and brutal reviews of the Humane Ai Pin make us discuss misguided expectations and the power of the smartphone duopoly. We also attempt to decode reports of new M4 Mac chips.

508: You’re Judging It Wrong

Casey Liss joins Myke to discuss Apple's new Spatial Personas for visionOS, and their thoughts on an immersive experience from... Gucci? Also, emulators are coming to the App Store, and Myke wants to check Casey's vibe.

473: I Can Talk About the George Foreman Grill Now

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