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Happy Pie N' Beer Day! In honor of our pioneer forebears, Doug and Mike question the concept of sacrifice, exploring its roots in religious teachings, cultural narratives, and personal experiences. They discuss the psychological impact of growing up with the idea that sacrifice is necessary for blessings and challenge the validity of this belief. 

Discussion Points:

• Sacrifice in Religious and Cultural Narratives
• The story of Ammon and other narratives of violence and obedience in scripture
• Mormon God: A Sadomasochist Kink Lord
• Depth psychological insights on sacrifice and its impact on the self.