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  • Possum-Hunting Heroes

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     In episode 30, the hosts dive deeply into the word hero, exploring its definition, etymology, and historical usage through various reference books and tools.

    Key Points:

    • Physical Resources:
      The hosts bring out several large, classic reference volumes including:
      1. The Little & Ives Webster Dictionary and Home Reference Library. Complete and Unabridged
      2. American Dictionary of the English Language (1828 Facsimile Edition) Facsimile of 1st Edition
      3. The New Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible (Every Word of the Bible Indexed, Large Print Edition)
      4. Google Books Ngram Viewer
    • You can find some photos of our personal copies on our Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/ihatetalkingpodcast. 
    • Definition of Hero:
      From the 1957 dictionary, a hero is defined as a man often worshiped as a demigod, celebrated for warlike exploits, valor, fortitude, endurance, and romantic qualities like strength, beauty, chivalry, and magnanimity. It also includes literary usage as a leading male character.
    • 1828 Webster Dictionary:
      The older dictionary defines hero similarly, emphasizing a demigod, a man of distinguished valor or enterprise, and a principal figure in poems or romances (e.g., Achilles, Ulysses). It notes that in pagan mythology, heroes were mortals believed to partake in immortality after death.
    • Biblical Concordance:
      The Strong’s Concordance does not list “hero” as a biblical term but includes related names like Herod. The word “demigod” and “demon” do not appear, while “God” has extensive entries. The episode briefly tangents into biblical terms like “Nephilim,” which is cross-referenced as “giants” in the King James Bible.
    • Google Books Ngram Viewer:
      This tool shows the usage frequency of the word “hero” in English books from 1500 to 2022. Usage was low early on, rose sharply in the 1700s (peaking around 1778, possibly tied to global conflicts), declined through the early 20th century, then increased again from the late 1990s, peaking around 2017. The recent rise may be influenced by pop culture (e.g., Marvel movies) and recognition of real-life heroes during events like the COVID pandemic.
    • Etymology:
      The word “hero” primarily derives from the Greek heros, meaning protector or defender, often referring to mythological figures with divine ancestry or honors. Latin borrowed the term from Greek. There is also a Scottish term with similar meaning related to warriors and champions, linked to Scottish independence history.

    Additional Notes:

    • The hosts share a personal story about acquiring the large 1957 dictionary for $1 at a bookstore sale.
    • They discuss the font and style of the old dictionary, noting its tiny print and archaic typeface.
    • The episode includes a brief tangent on related words like “hedgehog” (from the 1828 dictionary) as a bonus.

    The hosts then share a personal story about protecting their chickens from a possum. When their dog alerted them to danger, one host bravely confronted the possum trying to get into the chicken coop, while the other managed the dog. This was their second encounter with a possum in the chicken run; the first time they let it go, but this time they acted decisively to protect their chickens.

    They discuss their mixed feelings about possums-one finds their appearance unsettling, while the other appreciates their role in pest control and prefers them over armadillos. Their son was eager to join the “possum hunt” next time.

    The story high

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    29 min
  • C's Get Degrees

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     Episode 29 centers on the word "accouterment," exploring its definition, origins, and broader implications for achievement, fairness, and personal values.

    Key Discussion Points:

    • Meaning and Usage of "Accouterment":
      • The hosts discuss the word "accouterment," initially guessing its meaning as something fancy or indicative of success.
      • They clarify that its primary meaning is rooted in the military: extra equipment carried by soldiers or personnel beyond their basic uniform and weapons, necessary for specific duties or ceremonial roles.
      • In everyday language, "accouterment" can also refer to additional items that enhance something, such as garnishes or condiments in food, or special items used in religious rituals.
      • The word derives from the French for clothing or equipment, emphasizing that accouterments are important, if not strictly essential, additions.
    • Perfectionism and Accomplishment:
      • The conversation shifts to the value of striving for perfection versus recognizing when it’s better to prioritize other values, such as family.
      • One host recounts choosing not to finish a Spartan race to support their children, reflecting on the importance of sometimes letting go of personal achievement for greater good.
      • They discuss the idea that not completing something perfectly or at all can have its own value, especially when weighed against the benefits to others.
    • "Cs Get Degrees" and Standards of Success:
      • The hosts debate the phrase "Cs get degrees," considering whether the outcome (a degree) is more important than the process (grades).
      • They note that while degrees are often the main credential employers look for, GPA and extracurriculars can still matter, especially in certain fields.
      • The discussion highlights differences in how various professions value practical experience versus academic achievement.
    • Fairness, Equity, and Recognition:
      • The hosts explore scenarios where effort and reward are not equally distributed, such as people cutting in line or team members getting credit for others' work.
      • They reflect on how personal values, trust, and optimism or pessimism shape responses to perceived unfairness.
      • The conversation touches on the tension between doing things oneself for quality control and delegating or accepting imperfection for the sake of growth or practicality (e.g., teaching children chores).

    Conclusion:
    The episode uses "accouterment" as a springboard for a broader discussion on what is necessary versus extra, the value of effort versus outcome, and how personal standards and trust influence decisions about achievement, fairness, and collaboration. The hosts balance perspectives on perfectionism, pragmatism, and the importance of sometimes letting go for the sake of others or long-term growth.

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    26 min
  • Spartan

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     Episode 28 centers on the word "Spartan" and the hosts’ recent experience participating in a Spartan Race, an obstacle course event inspired by the endurance and discipline of ancient Sparta.

    Key Discussion Points:

    • Meaning of "Spartan":
      The hosts explore the word’s origins and definitions. "Spartan" can refer to something related to ancient Sparta, but as an adjective, it means showing indifference to comfort or luxury, being rigorously simple, frugal, or austere. The term is also associated with bravery and discipline, and the hosts contrast this with stoicism and modern usage.
    • Spartan Race Experience:
      The family recently took part in a Spartan Race. The event involved challenging obstacles, off-road running, and extreme heat, which made the race particularly difficult this year. The hosts describe the logistics, including staggered start times for different age groups, and the importance of hydration and support during the event.
    • Notable Obstacles:
      Specific obstacles are described, such as the "slip wall," which is a steep, slippery climb immediately following a water obstacle. The hosts discuss the perceived and actual height of the wall, the challenge it presents, and the risks involved, including witnessing several falls.
    • Race Outcome and Priorities:
      One host, a veteran of 13 Spartan races, did not finish (DNF) this race for the first time, choosing to cut the course short to participate in the children’s race with their kids. They reflect on the value of family memories over personal achievement, emphasizing that the experience and time with their children mattered more than completing the race.
    • Community and Camaraderie:
      The hosts highlight the supportive atmosphere of the Spartan community, where participants help and encourage each other rather than compete aggressively.
    • Penalty System Change:
      The episode notes a return of the "burpee" penalty for failed obstacles (30 burpees per failure), after a brief period where failed obstacles only required a penalty lap. The host expresses approval of the return to burpees, seeing it as a more meaningful challenge.

    Conclusion:
    The episode uses the Spartan Race as a springboard to discuss the meaning of being "Spartan"-embracing challenge, discipline, and simplicity-and the importance of prioritizing meaningful experiences and community over personal accolades.

    Learn more about Spartan race at https://www.spartan.com/. Learn more about the obstacles in Spartan races, including ones mentioned in this episode, at https://marathonhandbook.com/spartan-race-obstacles/.

    Do you have a Spartan experience and/or want to hear more about other race experiences? Let us know in the comments or send us a note!

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    31 min
  • Health and Pain

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     Episode 27 of I Hate Talking starts by defining "optimist" and "pessimist" from a dictionary and philosophical perspective, with one host identifying more as an optimist in the philosophical sense (believing good will triumph), but a pessimist in the day-to-day sense (seeing the world as relatively evil). The other host identifies as an optimist, seeing no benefit to thinking negatively. They then bring in the concept of a "realist," which they consider the most ideal but difficult state, requiring one to shut off emotions. The crux of the episode shifts to a discussion of health challenges. One host suffered a chemical burn and infection from a liquid bandage after mole removal, causing significant pain and discomfort for 10 days. The other was treated proactively for Rocky Mountain fever from a tick bite and had to take antibiotics that upset their stomach. They share a humorous anecdote about their youngest son saving a yogurt for his dad to eat after the antibiotics. Due to these concurrent health issues, they had to attend several preplanned events while feeling unwell.

    The episode then pivots to the social etiquette of attending events while in pain or emotional distress, discussing how to be respectful and considerate of others without drawing unwanted attention to oneself. They explore the nuances of sharing personal struggles, balancing honesty with the desire to avoid making the event about themselves. They also question how to react if noticing someone else is crying or struggling, emphasizing the need to consider the relationship and the situation.

    We’re ok now, but still don’t take this episode as medical advice in any way!

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    32 min
  • Time is Running Out

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     The quote "time is not running out, but it's building up" is discussed and debated. Is time running out or not? Can time be "built up" or is it better to describe experience, memories, and relationships being built, through wise use of your time?

    Episode 26 of I Hate Talking starts with a discussion of the word "emblematic," defined as serving as a symbol of a particular quality or concept. The hosts discuss whether it's a newly popular word or if it's always been in use, but they're only now becoming aware of it. One host went on a mini-retreat for homeschool moms and shares a key takeaway, which causes a disagreement. The phrase was: "Time is not running out, it is building up." A debate ensues. The second host immediately rejects it, arguing time is running out and must be used wisely. The first host explains it's meant to encourage moms to focus on building relationships with their children during their limited time at home, rather than dwelling on the fleeting nature of childhood. The second host acknowledges that "building relationships" is a good use of time, but maintains the perspective that time is a finite resource.

    The conversation shifts to a book recommendation, Anti-Time Management by Richie Norton, which the hosts both intend to read. They discuss a concept from the book, questioning whether people have 10 years of experience or 1 year repeated 10 times. This leads to a broader discussion on intentionally building experiences and relationships. They then debate whether the authors of these books believe it is possible to achieve a final destination with contentment. They ultimately circle back to their personal outlook, whether that means dwelling on what they are losing or dwelling on what they are gaining in the process. To close, the first hosts ask if the second host would say there is a difference between optimism and a hopeful person.

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    29 min
  • Long Distance and Ducks

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     Pickle juice, ducks, weddings, and long-distance dating. We tackle all these topics in an emblematic episode of I Hate Talking. This is a great episode for new listeners to “dive” in.

    Episode 25 of I Hate Talking begins with the hosts welcoming new and returning listeners, including those who may have heard test episodes early on. One host reveals a quirky detail: they were going to get pickle juice when they saw hundreds of plastic ducks. This leads to a discussion about their child's school campaign, for which the family glued miniature ducks onto campaign slogans. The main topic shifts to the word "duck," including its definition, etymology (diving bird leading to the verb), various uses (mollusk, amphibious vehicle), slang meanings (odd or endearing term), and even the duck emoji's supposed meaning on TikTok. The hosts then recall a humorous incident at a wedding where one mistook a fake duck in a pond for a real one.

    Shifting gears, they reminisce about their own long-distance relationship and recent wedding anniversary. Having spent only 21 days physically together before getting married, they attribute the relationship's quick progression to the extensive hours spent talking via Skype, texting, and phone calls. This contrasts with in-person dating activities that allow less conversation. They debate whether they'd recommend long-distance relationships, concluding it depends on the individuals and their preferences. While the podcast is called "I Hate Talking," the hosts acknowledge that they cherish their deep conversations.

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    30 min
  • September 11 (Conspiracy Theory)

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     Episode 24 of I Hate Talking begins by discussing the word "para" as a root word, inspired by a Joe Rogan episode with Louis Elizondo. While Elizondo correctly defined "para" (meaning "beside" or "alongside of" in Greek), he incorrectly used "parachute" as an example. The hosts clarify that "parachute" comes from Italian and French roots meaning "to protect against a fall." The hosts shift to a discussion of the events of September 11th, 2001, and some of the conspiracy theories surrounding it. They focus on World Trade Center Building 7, which collapsed despite not being hit by a plane, and discuss suspicious financial transactions and individuals involved, like Larry Silverstein. They also mention anomalies related to the phone calls from the planes and the Pentagon crash.

    Key Points:

    1. Root Word "Para": Elizondo was correct in the root's meaning (Greek for "beside" or "alongside of") and application to "paramedic," but wrong to apply it to "parachute."
    2. September 11th: Discuss the 23rd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, acknowledging some listeners have no direct memory of the event.
    3. World Trade Center Building 7: Focus on the collapse of Building 7, which was not hit by a plane, raising questions about the official explanation.
    4. Financial Oddities: Mention Rumsfeld's report on missing trillions from the Department of Defense announced the day before the attacks, and shorting of airline stocks before 9/11.
    5. Larry Silverstein: Discuss Larry Silverstein, who owned the World Trade Center complex and had insured it for more than it was worth shortly before 9/11, while he was "coincidentally" not in the building that day due to a doctor's appointment.
    6. Pennsylvania and Pentagon Planes: Discuss the anomalies about phone calls from the planes (calm demeanor and lack of background noise).
    7. Conspiracy Theories: Hosts state their frustration around discussing the topic, because of the loss of life, but allude to theories regarding those with vested financial interest.


    The Joe Rogan episode featuring Luis Elizonda that was referenced during this episode can be found here:

    •  https://open.spotify.com/episode/08Fi0pDJnCLRK0jSSLO1Le

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    26 min
  • Summer of Camping

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     Episode 23 of I Hate Talking begins by exploring the word "nice" and its etymological journey from meaning "ignorant" in the 13th century to its modern connotation of "pleasant" and "agreeable." The hosts then transition to discussing their "Summer of Camping" challenge, where they tent-camped at least one night per week for 13 weeks.

    Key Points:

    1. Word of the Episode: Nice
      • The modern definition is "pleasant," "agreeable," or "satisfactory."
      • The etymology traces back to Latin "nescire" (to not know), evolving to mean "ignorant" in French and then "fussy," "dainty," and eventually "agreeable."
    2. Summer of Camping Challenge:
      • The hosts challenged themselves to tent camp at least one night per week for 13 weeks during the summer of 2024.
      • The goal was to spend quality time outdoors as a family.
      • They succeeded in camping every week, sometimes in their backyard or at various campsites.
    3. Initial Skepticism:
      • Many people doubted they would complete the challenge.
      • The first weekend faced a weather-related cancellation.
    4. Positives of Camping:
      • Reduced screen time, fostering storytelling and family bonding.
    5. Challenges/Takeaways:
      • Kids missed TV but adapted.
      • The family consumed a large quantity of marshmallows.
      • Realizations about tables.
      • One host initially perceived camping as a lot of work (setting up and cleaning gear), but they successfully completed the challenge.

    We stayed at a number of various state parks as well as booking a variety of stays through https://www.hipcamp.com/en-US.

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    35 min
  • Mental Load

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     Episode 22 of I Hate Talking tackles the concept of mental load, also known as cognitive labor, defined as the cognitive effort required in managing work, relationships, family, and household tasks. The hosts delve into the often invisible and intangible responsibilities involving thinking, planning, and decision-making. The episode explores potential gender disparities in mental load, acknowledges it as a contemporary "hot topic", and distinguishes between normal mental load and problematic mental overload which can lead to mental fatigue.

    Key Points:

    1. Definition of Mental Load: The cognitive effort required to manage work, relationships, family, and household. It includes anticipating needs, finding solutions, making decisions, monitoring progress, and overseeing tasks/schedules.
    2. Mental Load vs. Mental Overload: The hosts differentiate between mental load, which everyone experiences, and mental overload, which leads to fatigue and needs to be addressed.
    3. Gender Roles: The episode touches on the stereotypical perception that women often bear a disproportionate share of the mental load, particularly in managing household and family-related tasks, even when both partners work full-time.
    4. Routine vs. Non-Routine Tasks: The hosts differentiate between routine tasks (which can be systemized and automated to reduce mental effort) and non-routine tasks (which demand more cognitive resources).
    5. Managing Mental Load: Suggest robust systems for tracking and managing responsibilities to reduce the mental burden and make it more manageable.
    6. Anecdotes and Examples: The hosts use personal anecdotes and examples to illustrate the concept of mental load, contrasting different approaches to planning, task management, and division of responsibilities.
    7. Birthdays: The hosts touch on having to put events (such as family birthdays) on the calander, and all the additional planning that falls on one person (in this case, the woman) such as gifting and card buying.

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    32 min
  • Decision Fatigue

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     Episode 21 of I Hate Talking delves into the concept of decision fatigue and choice overload, exploring how both impact people's mental state. Decision fatigue occurs when one becomes overwhelmed by the sheer number of decisions they must make, while choice overload, or the paradox of choice, stems from being overwhelmed by the multitude of options available when making a single decision. The hosts discuss how decision fatigue can lead to diminished decision quality, procrastination, or decision paralysis.

    Key Points:

    1. Definitions:
      • Decision Fatigue: Exhaustion from the number of decisions made.
      • Choice Overload (Paradox of Choice): Overwhelm from having too many options when making a decision.
    2. Consequences of Decision Fatigue: Reduced decision quality, procrastination, or decision paralysis.
    3. Examples of Decision Fatigue: The hosts talk about the many decisions moms make daily, such as meals, clothing for kids, and chores. Planning ahead helps alleviate this. They cite choosing what to eat as a prime example of decision fatigue.
    4. Number of Decisions: The American Medical Association estimates an average person makes 35,000 decisions per day, including minor choices like brushing teeth or driving maneuvers. American Medical Associations article.
    5. Companies & Choices: Companies increase choices to appeal to niche consumers, paradoxically adding to decision fatigue.
    6. Personal Preferences: The Cheesecake Factory (extensive menu) vs. In-N-Out Burger (simple menu) are used as examples of how menu complexity impacts decision-making. One host limits their choices to specific sections of extensive menus.
    7. The impact on others: The hosts consider how decisions impact others (family, future generations), adding to the weight/complexity.
    8. Routine vs. Decision Fatigue: Routine helps combat decision fatigue. Example: One child in the family always gets a hamburger, so it's no longer a decision to make.
    9. Mental Load: They tease the next episode will discuss mental load.

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    29 min

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