None of Your Business Podcast

I Sat With Death Row Killers… This Is What I Learned


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In this episode of None Of Your Business, Michael sits down with Dr. ShaRone David Kushnir, a clinical psychologist with a unique background as a former concert pianist and artist, for a deep and thought-provoking conversation on human behavior, mental health, and transformation.

Dr. Kushnir shares his journey from the world of music and film scoring into psychology, including his work inside the prison system with violent offenders and inmates on death row. He opens up about sitting face to face with murderers, navigating high-risk environments, and what those experiences taught him about trauma, power, and the human need for control.

The conversation explores emotional regulation, anger, narcissism, empathy, and why listening is one of the most powerful tools in both relationships and personal growth. Dr. Kushnir explains how even the most broken individuals can find meaning, why no one is beyond redemption, and how mindset shifts can change the trajectory of a person’s life.

They also dive into spirituality, identity, and the intersection between art and psychology, offering a rare perspective on how creativity and deep thinking shape the way we understand ourselves and others.

00:00 Intro

01:45 From artist to psychologist

05:00 Art, psychology, and identity

07:00 Family background and upbringing

10:00 Religion, spirituality, and early influences

12:30 Leaving the music world

14:00 Ayahuasca and life transformation

15:15 Entering psychology and prison work

16:30 First experience on death row

18:45 Inside the mind of a murderer

22:00 Working with violent offenders

24:00 Redemption and human nature

28:00 Understanding power and control

30:00 Mental illness vs responsibility

33:00 Empathy, narcissism, and human behavior

36:00 Life inside the prison system

38:00 Conflict with prison staff

40:00 Handling danger and fear

41:00 De-escalating anger and aggression

43:00 Lessons on communication and listening

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