The pandemic made the global economy weird. Very weird. So weird, in fact, that you could write a book about how many things have gotten upended, turned around, and totally blown up during the peak COVID years. And that's exactly what Felix Salmon has done. Salmon, the chief financial correspondent for Axios and host of Slate's Money podcast, joins Josh to opine on the mystical nature of the "Phoenix Economy" and what it means for the world. Discussed: Granola, ape JPEGs, Canadian truckers.

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