Episode Summary: "This is the answer to poverty." These words came to Sandra Drury in the middle of the night—and they changed everything. As a leader within World Vision, Sandra has spent the last decade championing the Biblical Empowered Worldview, a transformative approach to poverty alleviation that's producing results traditional development models never could.

In this episode, Sandra joins the guys to share how this mindset-shifting strategy is breaking cycles of poverty—from small villages in Tanzania to global adoption across World Vision's 44,000 staff. The key? Aligning beliefs about identity, purpose, and agency with biblical truth.

Whether you're passionate about global development or need encouragement, this conversation offers practical insights and a hopeful vision of how every ordinary Christian can contribute to lasting transformation.

Who is Disciple Nations Alliance (DNA)? Since 1997, DNA’s mission has been to equip followers of Jesus around the globe with a biblical worldview, empowering them to build flourishing families, communities, and nations. 👉 https://disciplenations.org/

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Sandra Drury is a member of World Vision's National Leadership Council. She has travelled extensively in Africa, teaching on what she refers to as “a biblically empowered worldview.” She also serves on the board of directors of Tyndale House Publishing Company. She has a bachelor’s degree in Accounting from the University of Kentucky and a master’s degree in Biblical Studies from Wheaton College. She is married, with four children and nine grandchildren.

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     👉 Make a lifesaving impact | World Vision | World Vision

     👉 Recommended Episode: Healing the Poverty Mindset pt. 1 with Tim &  Terry Andrews

     👉 Book: Discipling Nations

     👉 Course: Kingdomizer 101 Course from DNA: Truth and Transformation

     👉 Video: Why Does Your Worldview Matter? 

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Episode Summary: The Kingdom of God is the story of God’s rule returning to the earth through Christ. It’s about all of life—spiritual, relational, and physical—being restored to the way God originally designed it. And we’re invited to be part of that story.

Through the power of the Spirit, we live as agents of renewal, bringing shalom and reconciliation into every corner of our lives and our world. This is what it means to be the people of the Kingdom. And this is what it looks like for nations to truly flourish.

In this episode, you’ll hear Dwight Vogt’s training from the 2022 DNA Global Forum as he unpacked the Bible’s big story: the Kingdom of God. Explores how the gospel of the Kingdom touches every part of life. He challenges narrow, privatized views of the gospel and invites us to recover a broader, richer understanding of God’s redemptive mission.

Who is Disciple Nations Alliance (DNA)? Since 1997, DNA’s mission has been to equip followers of Jesus around the globe with a biblical worldview, empowering them to build flourishing families, communities, and nations. 👉 https://disciplenations.org/

🎙️Featured Guest: Dwight Vogt is the former Vice President at the Disciple Nations Alliance. Prior to his work with the DNA, he spent 27 years with Food for the Hungry, serving in field-based leadership roles in Bangladesh, Peru, Thailand, and Guatemala. Throughout his career, Dwight has been passionate about equipping the global church to live out a biblical worldview and bring holistic transformation to communities and nations.

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👉 Kingdomizer 101 Course from DNA: Truth and Transformation

👉 Video: The Transforming Story

👉 Presentations from DNA’s 2022 Global Forum

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Episode Summary: In today's distracted and disoriented culture, the local church faces a critical question: are we actively prioritizing the formation of disciples who can think and live biblically in every area of their lives?

Pastor Doug Atterbury from Compass Bible Church joins us to explore how churches can move beyond surface-level success to embrace the deeper call of the Great Commission—transformative worldview discipleship. Drawing from his experience in secular Southern California, Doug shares how believers can resist cultural lies, reclaim purpose, and model holistic lives of meaning in a confused world.

We hope that this episode will shed light on the vital need for pastors, parents, and all Christians to encourage their churches to step into the battlefield of worldviews and ideas with truth that transforms.

Who is Disciple Nations Alliance (DNA)? Since 1997, DNA’s mission has been to equip followers of Jesus around the globe with a biblical worldview, empowering them to build flourishing families, communities, and nations. 👉 https://disciplenations.org/

Featured Guest: Doug Atterbury is a Southern California native. He received a Bachelor Degree in Bible and Theology from California Baptist University and M.A. in Theology from Talbot School of Theology. Doug has served in a variety of pastoral positions over the years; the most recent in Anaheim Hills. Doug has been married to his wife, Kelli, since 2009 and has two daughters.

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• Kingdomizer 101 Course from DNA: Truth and Transformation
• Compass Bible Institute
• Compass Bible Church
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Episode Summary: Antisemitism is surging at an alarming rate around the world—but what’s fueling this ancient hatred? In this episode, Darrow Miller joins us to explore the deeper spiritual realities driving antisemitism—realities the media, politicians, and even most churches won’t touch. This conversation isn't just about politics, land disputes, ancient grievances, or theological camps. 

At its core, antisemitism is a rejection of the moral universe revealed by the God of the Bible. When God called Abraham, He didn’t just form an ethnic group—He launched a revolutionary worldview with one sovereign Creator, one moral law, and one standard of truth. This vision of reality has, and will, always provoke hostility in a world that longs for autonomy.

Jews, whether religious or secular, represent this divine worldview by their very existence. They are living reminders that there is a God—and that we are not Him! This is why totalitarian regimes, pagan cultures, and secular movements have always sought to erase them.

Join us as we trace the spiritual and historical roots of antisemitism, from Egypt to Auschwitz to today’s college campuses. Examine how the same hatred directed at Jews eventually targets Christians who uphold biblical morality. The urgent question is: Will Christians stand in solidarity with the Jewish people—or remain silent as this civilizational crisis deepens?

Who is Disciple Nations Alliance (DNA)? Since 1997, DNA’s mission has been to equip followers of Jesus around the globe with a biblical worldview, empowering them to build flourishing families, communities, and nations. 👉 https://disciplenations.org/

Featured Guest: Darrow Miller is a world-renowned author and teacher on Christianity and culture, apologetics, worldview, poverty, and the dignity of women. In 1981, he began 27 years at Food for the Hungry, serving there as vice president from 1994 to 2007 until he helped launch the DNA in 2008. 

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• Book: Emancipating the World by Darrow Miller
• Podcast Episode: “Antisemitism and Should Christians Support Israel? | Dr. Jeff Myers”
• Blog: “Getting to the Root of Antisemitism” by Darrow Miller

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Our worldview shapes what we think, how we live, and the kind of culture we create. So when our communities bear bitter fruit—poverty, corruption, injustice—we need to look at the roots below the surface. In this episode, we explore how worldviews are formed, how they shape entire societies, and why true transformation comes from working at this level. 

Too often, Christian mission stops at conversion and overlooks the need for deep worldview discipleship, leaving people with many unbiblical cultural assumptions. Lasting change comes when our minds are renewed, leading to flourishing not only in our lives, but also in our families and nations as we live into God's design.

Main Topics:

1. What Is a Worldview? – How it forms and why it matters
2. Ideas Flow Downstream – From philosophers to principles to lifestyles
3. Rooted in Truth – How biblical worldview transforms hearts and societies

It starts with us. We must intentionally think and act differently than the world, based on the reality of God’s Kingdom. 

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Vishal Mangalwadi returns to challenge the pessimistic theology that has sidelined the Western church for decades. He argues that the West's decline politically and culturally stems from bad theology. We pray, “His Kingdom come and His will be done on earth,” but simultaneously, we as the church in America have retreated from leading in the culture. 

To move forward, Mangalwadi proposes a bold vision that begins with education reform, calling churches to reclaim their position as centers of discipleship and cultural formation. Drawing from his global experience and biblical conviction, he offers a hopeful roadmap for restoring truth and rebuilding broken nations.

Main Topics:

1. Why Western Christianity adopted a pessimistic eschatology—and the cultural cost
2. How the church turned to a private faith and ceded culture to secularism
3. Mangalwadi's plan to renew culture through biblically rooted education

Join us to explore how the church can recover its cultural voice and help replant biblical roots in today's world.

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Addressing abortion starts with discipleship, not legislation. In this powerful conversation, Roland Warren, President of Care Net and author of The Alternative to Abortion, challenges Christians to move beyond politics and embrace a “pro-abundant life” perspective rooted in John 10:10. Drawing from his own story of an unplanned college pregnancy turned 43-year marriage, Roland reframes abortion as a discipleship issue—calling the Church to support not just life, but lives transformed by the Gospel. He shares practical ways churches can respond with compassion, healing, and hope to those facing pregnancy decisions.

Main Topics:

1. From Pro-Life to Pro-Abundant Life – Why saving babies isn’t enough without also making disciples
2. Shocking Church Statistics – 54% of abortion seekers identify as Christians
3. Ministry, Not Politics – How small groups and churches can become safe, healing places
4. Mary, Joseph & Making Life Disciples – Biblical models for gospel-centered care

If abortion is happening in our churches, what kind of gospel are we really preaching?

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More than 60% of children who grow up in church will walk away from it in their young adult years, according to Barna. Why is this happening—and what can be done to reverse the trend? Dr. Josh Mulvihill, Executive Director of Church and Family Ministry at RenewaNation, joins us to unpack the root of the crisis: a breakdown in biblical discipleship. He shares a compelling vision for how families, churches, and schools can work together to raise children with resilient, gospel-centered worldviews—and why it starts with parents and grandparents reclaiming their God-given role’s as the primary disciplers.

Main Topics:

1. The Discipleship Disconnect – Why many Christian parents now believe it’s the church’s job to disciple their kids
2. The Three-Stranded Cord – How family, church, and education can align to build a strong biblical foundation
3. The Power of Grandparents – Why grandparents are overlooking their vital biblical role in passing down faith to future generations

Raising gospel-centered families isn’t about perfection—it’s about faithfulness, and the courage to make your home the frontlines of spiritual formation.

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• Why Social Justice is Not Biblical Justice

In today's fragmented Christian landscape, tribal loyalties sometimes overshadow biblical truth. At Disciple Nations Alliance, we're frequently asked where we fit theologically. The answer? We don't wear a denominational jersey—and that's by design. In this episode, we unpack why choosing Scripture over systems isn't theological compromise but an emphasis on the heart of God's mission.

Rather than aligning with a single tradition, we stand on clear, foundational truths: Jesus is King, His kingdom is advancing, and His method is disciple-making through the Church—holistically and incarnationally—grounded in a biblical worldview. These truths transcend denominational lines and unify believers from Pentecostals in Latin America to Anglicans in Africa.

This conversation is a call to elevate Scripture above interpretive frameworks, to approach theology with humility and charity, and to focus on telling the full biblical story.

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Are we experiencing a spiritual revival—or facing a full-blown discipleship crisis in the American church? In this powerful conversation, renowned researcher Dr. George Barna shares alarming new data and challenges us to rethink how we measure spiritual health and make disciples in a post-Christian culture.

Main Topics

• The Decline of Belief in the God of the Bible
  • The fastest-growing spiritual segment in America is now the “don’ts”—those who don’t know, don’t believe, or don’t care if God exists.
  • Barna reveals a 30-year decline in belief in the God of the Bible.
• Why Discipleship Metrics Are Failing
  • Most churches track attendance, programs, and budgets—but not spiritual transformation.
  • Barna outlines six biblical criteria for true discipleship based on Jesus’ teachings.
  • Only 1 in 10 born-again Christians actively disciples others.
• The Crucial Role of Children’s Ministry and Worldview Formation
  • A child's worldview is largely formed by age 13, starting as early as 15–18 months.
  • Only 12% of children’s pastors have a biblical worldview themselves.
  • Barna’s "Seven Cornerstones" research shows that rejecting even one foundational belief drops the likelihood of a biblical worldview from 83% to just 2%.

What if the greatest threat to the church today isn’t cultural hostility—but our failure to make true disciples?

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