We have our friend Jeff Bachman sitting with us today. Jeff is the Life Groups and Online Campus Pastor at Harbor Point Church in San Juan Capistrano, California. The guys talk about the things they wish they knew when they were just starting out in ministry that would had prepared them for where they are now in the pastorate.

We talk about how transparent we can be as pastors with our people in the church. We have a fun conversation about pastors visiting other churches while on vacation.

We close the show by sharing some book recommendations for new pastors.