In this Sounds Strategic episode, podcast host Meia Nouwens is joined by Veerle Nouwens, Evan A. Laksmana and Nick Childs to discuss the upcoming 22nd IISS Shangri La Dialogue, which will be held in Singapore from 30 May–1 June. 

This year’s dialogue is held against the backdrop of Russia’s ongoing war of aggression against Ukraine, an intense US trade and tariff war with China, heightened tensions between India and Pakistan, and ongoing military modernisation across the Asia Pacific.  

Key themes explored include  

•  the impact of great power competition on small and medium powers in the region; 
• strategies to manage nuclear and conventional proliferation risks; 
• and the evolving defence challenges in critical domains such as undersea warfare, cyber security and outer space. 

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Date of Recording: 16 May 2025   

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