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WHEW! Y'all are real ones if you are still here with us. All November long has been the Zodiac month and tonight we end the journey on possible suspects that fit the bill of being the elusive serial killer. Who IS the Zodiac Killer and will we ever know?
SOURCES:
https://www.zodiackiller.com/AllenFile.html#:~:text=July%2015%2C%201971%3A%20The%20Manhattan,Francisco%20Police%20Department%20(SFPD).
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/arthur-leigh-allen.html
https://www.zodiackiller.com/Cheney.html
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/allen-primed-suspect/
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-evidence-for-and-against-the-theory-that-Arthur-Leigh-Allen-was-the-Zodiac-killer
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/the-1978-letter.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/30/zodiac-killer-daughter-claim
https://www.angelfire.com/fl5/zodiac_law/ArthurLeighAllen.html
https://screenrant.com/all-evidence-arthur-leigh-allen-not-zodiac-killer/
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/allen-primed-suspect/allen-part-4/
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/allen.htm
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Zodiac-Killer-Earl-Van-Best-Gary-Stewart-fx-show-15105150.php
https://www.grunge.com/626353/every-big-suspect-accused-of-being-the-zodiac-killer/
https://zodiackiller.fandom.com/wiki/Ross_Sullivan
https://www.zodiackiller.com/MQSFS.html
Hang in there guys, we are almost to the finish line of the Zodiac Killer... sort of. In episode 3, let's browse the idea that Zodiac had a higher body count than we have confirmed so far. Could it have started earlier? Miles south? Or we he starting to abduct women? Let us know what you think after you here this episode and make sure you return for our FINALE where we will discuss the suspects.
SOURCES:
https://thehistoryofcomputing.net/the-teletype-and-tty
https://www.playbuzz.com/scottishopera10/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-mikado
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/cheri-jo-bates.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2020/12/11/zodiac-killer-340-cypher-solved/
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/category/the%20340%20cipher
https://www.zodiackiller.com/Lass.html
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/category/domingosedwards%20murders4b60da3cca
http://southtahoenow.com/story/09/02/2020/50th-anniversary-disappearance-donna-ann-lass-south-lake-tahoe
https://questersite.wordpress.com/2016/04/15/peak-through-the-pines-zodiac-folklore/
https://www.zodiackiller.com/DomingosEdwards.html
https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/12/zodiac_killers_cipher_solved/
https://www.history.com/news/this-supercomputer-was-programmed-to-think-like-the-zodiac-killer
https://blog.wolfram.com/2021/03/24/the-solution-of-the-zodiac-killers-340-character-cipher/
Whew boy, y'all buckle up because this is the FIRST installment of the probably month long Zodiac deep dive. He is probably one of the most known serial killers and even though his victim count is not high nor did he have some major shock value to his crimes, it is intriguing because he got away with it for so long... still does to this day unfortunately. He taunted police by writing letters and ciphers. Did he have more crimes than the 5 linked to him? Were those 5 all really murdered by 1 person who named himself Zodiac? We have a ton of questions to try and answer or at least discuss so we hope you enjoy and keep coming back to see who WE think the Zodiac is!
SOURCES:
https://www.360cities.net/image/lakeherman
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/lake-herman-murders.html
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/zodiac-killer
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/zodiac-killer-s-victims-letters-and-the-code/story-8fxNwImx7WtpPAChbDmdLJ.html
https://zodiackiller.com/FaradayJensen.html
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/tag/betty-lou-jensen/
https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/The_Zodiac_Killer
https://www.sfweekly.com/news/yesterdays-crimes-news/yesterdays-crimes-the-zodiac-killers-first-known-victim-died-50-years-ago/
https://knappily.com/onthisday/december-20-1968-the-zodiac-kills-his-first-victims-940
http://beniciaheraldonline.com/the-zodiac-case/
https://www.history.com/news/the-zodiac-killer-a-timeline
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/lakehermanroad.htm
http://www.thequesterfiles.com/faraday-jensen_case_12-20-68.html
Books:
Zodiac by Robert Graysmith
The Most Dangerous Animal of All by Gary Stewart
Join us for our first bonus episode + halloween extra! We have a few true crime cases, a couple tragic haunted house/hayride deaths, spooky stories and some laughs. Hope you enjoy it!
On Mischief Night, October 30th 1975, in the upscale neighborhood of Belle Haven in Greenwich CT, 15 year old Martha Moxley went out for a night of fun but did not return home alive. She was last seen across the street at the Skakel residence. She would be found on Halloween day bludgeoned to death in her own backyard. For years her murder went unsolved, there were no arrests until 25 years later... and it would be a relative of the Kennedy's. But did he do it?
SOURCES:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/17/court.archive.skakel9/index.html
https://www.oxygen.com/murder-and-justice-the-case-of-martha-moxley/crime-time/martha-moxley-diary-skakel-family
https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/share/bee64560-eb0c-43d5-a794-285902b26d4e?itm_content=footer-recirc
https://unsolved.com/gallery/martha-moxley/
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,37989,00.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-feb-15-me-19311-story.html
https://people.com/archive/the-boy-next-door-vol-53-no-5/
https://www.morbidtourism.com/locations/id/60bcfe18aa982419f866d3ed
https://www.wsgw.com/who-killed-martha-moxley/
https://www.eonline.com/news/1050434/the-unrelenting-martha-moxley-murder-saga-old-money-cold-justice-the-kennedy-connection-and-endless-twists
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/us/michael-skakel-conviction-vacated
https://www.schoenbachlaw.com/media
https://jud.ct.gov/external/news/inreMichaelS-MD.pdf
https://jud.ct.gov/external/news/Press032.html
https://suzukisthoughts.blogspot.com/2019/06/suffer-little-children-elan-school-and.html
https://jud.ct.gov/external/supapp/Cases/AROcr/CR295/295CR131E.pdf
If you find your dog chewing on a bone, you better question where they got it. Thankfully Christine Ross did just that. She and her dog , Ruca were on a walk one night along the West Mesa in Albuquerque, New Mexico in 2009 when Ruca found a bone. That bone was quickly identified as a human bone. When police started their investigation, they found the remains of 11 women and 1 fetus. All of these women had been missing since 2003-2004 and most were sex workers. Police to this day have not said what they believe has happened to these women and it is still unsolved to this day.
I promise we are getting to the good part. In part 2 of the List Family Murders we pick back up on the day the family is discovered, a whole month later. John List has left a messy crime scene, a 5 page confession letter to his pastor and attempted to leave without a trace of himself- including cutting himself out of every picture in the home. Little do Westfield Police officers know, List is on trains and buses headed towards Colorado to restart his life. Listen NOW to hear how List tries blending in until his capture in 1989, it's pretty badass.
SOURCES:
Daily Motion Video: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3flb8g
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cp90.pdf
Ed Illiano Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRGJaig8poU
https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=132646&page=1
https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/breeze-knoll/
https://www.grunge.com/957357/the-terrifying-true-story-of-the-list-family-murders/
https://www.mlive.com/bctimes/2008/03/john_lists_legend_a_horror_sto.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1989/07/01/a-double-life-for-17-years/e6ea9055-c690-428c-bbe2-75c86adc82a4/
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/03/nyregion/at-manhunt-s-end-a-very-average-man.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-18-mn-3671-story.html
https://thecasualcriminalist.com/podcasts/john-list-the-righteous-killer/
https://law.justia.com/cases/new-jersey/appellate-division-published/1990/270-n-j-super-252-0.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/27/nyregion/murder-threat-is-described-in-list-case.html
https://www.nj.com/njv_mark_diionno/2008/03/the_bogeyman_of_westfield_a_gh.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2008/03/no_one_has_stepped_forward.html
http://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/list-john-emil.htm
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