On this episode of How To Really Run A City, former Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and former Philly Mayor Michael Nutter speak with Delaware Governor John Carney. Carney is doing something that almost no other governor has done--turned his sights from the highest executive office in the state to the role of mayor (in this case, the mayoralty of Wilmington, DE).

Reed and Nutter offer some sage advice and everyone on the show reminisces about what it really takes to get shit done in a city. There's a dead tree that soon-to-be Mayor Carney has been obsessing over that illustrates this point perfectly.

"Be impatient," Nutter told Carney. "Everyday. Be impatient in doing good for your constituents."

"Here, here," Reed responded.

Join us for this episode about the power of good leaders in our cities--something needed with increasing urgency in this country. Remember to subscribe to the podcast to keep up on all the latest episodes. You can even watch the conversation play out on YouTube.

As cities go, so goes the nation!