In The Thick

In this rebroadcast episode from 2020, Maria and Julio are joined by Dr. Michele Goodwin, law professor at the University of California, Irvine, host of Ms. Magazine’s On The Issues podcast and author of the book, Policing the Womb: Invisible Women and the Criminalization of Motherhood, and Mary Ziegler, law professor at Florida State University, historian and author of the book, Abortion and the Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present. They talk about the future of Roe v. Wade and unpack the history of reproductive justice for women of color and immigrants.

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• Michele Goodwin writes about the new “Jane Crow era” in the United States, for The Atlantic: “Leaving the protection of people who can become pregnant to the devices of hostile state legislatures has been and will be disastrous.”

• Tech reporter Louise Matsakis writes about the privacy experts who are warning about data-tracking if Roe is overturned, for NBC News. 

• As the country faces the prospect of a post-Roe future, The Washington Post spoke to people who remember what life was like before the landmark decision.

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This episode originally aired in September 2020 and was mixed by Leah Shaw Dameron.

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In this special collaboration with Latino USA, Maria and Julio are joined by Maria Teresa Kumar, founding president and CEO of Voto Latino, and Jaime Longoria, manager of research and training for the Disinfo Defense League at Media Democracy Fund for a conversation about misinformation and disinformation in the Latino community. They get into who is behind these disinformation campaigns, their impact on communities, and the organizing that is being done to counter these issues. 

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• In this research study for First Draft News, Jaime Longoria, Daniel Acosta, Shaydanay Urbani and Rory Smith examine how vaccine misinformation has impacted the Latino community. 

• “What the tech platforms actually showed us is the silver lining: We’re all being manipulated the same way,” writes journalist Maria Ressa for The Atlantic. 

• For The New Yorker, Graciela Mochkofsky writes about the misconception of the Latino community and misinformation: “It’s not that Spanish-speaking Latinx people are the most gullible people in the country but that they are among the most wary.”

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Maria and Julio share their responses to the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion to overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade case. They talk about the vulnerable communities who will be impacted if abortion bans go into place across the country. They also get into how Republican candidates for Congress, like J.D. Vance, are vying for Trump’s endorsement to push ahead in their primaries.

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• In this personal essay for Prism, Tina Vasquez writes about her experience and struggles with getting an abortion and why it’s “a matter of life and death.”

• Andrea González-Ramírez lists ways to support abortion rights in this article for The Cut. 

• “Trump now has a definitive rebuttal to those who believed his grip over the party was loosening, and Republican candidates in other states are certain to exert even more energy trying to win his approval,” writes Alex Shepard for The New Republic on Republican J.D. Vance’s Ohio primary win.

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Maria and Julio are joined by Tanya Ballard Brown, executive editor at Government Executive, and Vann Newkirk II, senior editor at The Atlantic and host of the podcast Floodlines. They reflect on 30 years since the police officers who brutally beat Rodney King were acquitted and the uprisings in Los Angeles that followed. They also get into the Biden administration’s potential plans for student loan forgiveness, and the latest on voting rights in the lead-up to the midterms.

This episode was mixed by Kieran Gannon.

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• “The 1992 riots were in many ways a product of segregation. The sense of disorder they caused only accelerated white flight,” writes Héctor Tobar in The New York Times Magazine.

• In this thread on Twitter, journalist Michael Harriot expands on the pay, wealth and education disparities between Black and white Americans, and its connection to student loans.

• For The Atlantic, Van Newkirk II interviewed Crystal Mason, a Black woman who was convicted to five years in prison for attempting to vote in 2016 and unknowingly violated a Texas voting law.

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Julio and guest co-host Jamilah King, deputy inequality editor at BuzzFeed News, talk about Elon Musk’s deal to buy Twitter. They also get into the Supreme Court’s decision to continue excluding Puerto Rico from federal benefits, and the future of the Trump-era Remain in Mexico policy. And, they discuss new revelations on Republican politicians’ involvement in the January 6 insurrection.

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• “Now one of the world’s biggest bullies will soon control one of the world’s biggest and most influential bully pulpits,” writes Renée Graham in this piece for the Boston Globe.

• “I felt like a bucket of cold water fell on me,” said one woman affected by the Supreme Court’s decision to deny Puerto Ricans access to SSI benefits, in this NBC News piece by Nicole Acevedo.

• For Mother Jones, Noah Y. Kim unpacks the implications of newly released recordings of Republican politicians in the aftermath of the January 6 insurrection.

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Maria and Julio are joined by Jullian Harris-Calvin, director of the Greater Justice New York program at the Vera Institute of Justice, and David Luis “Suave” Gonzalez, artist and a former juvenile lifer. They discuss systemic issues within the criminal legal system, the case of Melissa Lucio, and the humanitarian crisis at New York City’s Rikers Island jail complex.

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• “The idea that my decision to take another person’s life was not based on complete and accurate information in a fair trial is horrifying,” writes Johnny Galvan Jr., a juror in Melissa Lucio’s case, in this opinion piece for the Houston Chronicle.

• Sara Dorn and Kimberly Gonzalez lay out a timeline of the calls to close Rikers Island and the steps that have been taken so far, for City and State New York.

• In a collaboration between ProPublica, The Marshall Project and NBC News, reporters investigated abuses at a new juvenile lockup in Louisiana, including 23-hour solitary confinement.

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Maria and guest co-host Jamilah King, deputy inequality editor at BuzzFeed News, discuss a federal judge’s decision to strike down the federal mask mandate on airplanes and public transportation. They also get into the pushback from some Democrats against the repeal of Title 42, and talk about the case of Melissa Lucio, the first Latina woman to be put on death row in Texas.

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• Aaron Blake breaks down the decision by Trump-nominated judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle against the CDC’s mask mandate on airplanes and public transportation in this piece for The Washington Post.

• In this piece for The Intercept, journalists Liliana Segura and Jordan Smith dive deep into the case of Melissa Lucio, and efforts from trial jurors, activists, and lawmakers to prove her innocence.

• “The end of Title 42 paired with a new approach to asylum processing presents an opportunity to pivot not from a draconian border approach to chaos, as moderate Democrats fear and Republicans anticipate, but to a much more orderly and charitable system,” writes immigration reporter Felipe De La Hoz in this piece for The New Republic.

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Julio and guest co-host Terrell Jermaine Starr, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and host of the Black Diplomats podcast, are joined by Renée Graham, associate editor and columnist for The Boston Globe, and Shefali Luthra, health reporter for The 19th. They talk about the latest on the war in Ukraine, and attacks by Israeli forces on Palestinians in occupied East Jerusalem. They also discuss the rise of restrictive anti-abortion and anti-trans legislation across the country. 

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• Mohammed El-Kurd writes about Land Day in Palestine on March 30, and the “Israeli regime’s architecture of displacement,” in this article for The Nation. 

• Shefali Luthra writes about Kentucky’s far-reaching abortion ban, which takes effect immediately, making it the first state where clinics will completely stop providing abortions, via 19th News. 

• “Alabama isn’t the first state to ban health care specific to transgender youth,” writes Renée Graham, “But Ivey is the first governor to endorse making criminals of medical professionals who offer necessary care to youth related to gender identity,” for the Boston Globe. 

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Julio and guest co-host Jamilah King, deputy inequality editor at BuzzFeed News, discuss the Brooklyn subway shooting and the calls for more policing in response. They also get into the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation’s purchase of a six million dollar mansion in California. And, they unpack the latest on COVID-19.

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• Nick Pinto writes about the failure of aggressive policing to prevent potential tragedies like the Brooklyn subway shooting in this piece for The Intercept.

• In this piece for NY Mag, journalist Sean Campbell dives deep into the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation’s purchase of a $6 million mansion in California.

• For The Atlantic, Ed Yong documents the prolonged grief of those who’ve lost loved ones to COVID-19: “Every news story twisted the knife. Every surge salted the wound. Two years later, she is still inundated by her grief. ‘And now people are saying we can get back to normal,’ she told me. ‘What’s normal?’”

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Maria and Julio are joined by Ai-jen Poo, co-founder and executive director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, and Pablo Alvarado, co-executive director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, to discuss labor organizing for workers. They get into the pandemic’s impact on informal economies, on-the-ground movements to protect low-wage workers, and what meaningful labor reforms would look like.

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• Due to the caregiving crisis, Juanita Sharpe writes about having to choose between her career and caring for her aging mother in this column for Fortune.

• For The American Prospect, Jon Hiatt lays out how organizations like the AFL-CIO can transform the Staten Island Amazon worker’s union success into a broader movement.

• On worker dissatisfaction, Timothy Noah writes for The New Republic that “nothing much will be done to relieve this misery until unions become powerful enough to reshape the industries in which they reside.”

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