In The Thick

Maria and Julio get into the ongoing climate crisis with Kendra Pierre-Louis, producer and senior climate reporter with the Gimlet-Spotify podcast How to Save a Planet, and Dallas Goldtooth, organizer with the Keep It in the Ground Campaign for the Indigenous Environmental Network. They discuss how communities of color are the most impacted by climate disasters globally, and also how they are at the forefront of pushing for climate justice.  ITT Staff Picks: - Zahra Hirji reports on the Biden administration finally setting in place initiatives to address worker-related deaths due to extreme heat, for BuzzFeed.  - “The climate crisis we face has been caused by the breakdown of our relationships over time, and to solve the crisis we must repair those relationships first,” writes Jena Brooker for The Grist.  - Michelle Gamage interviewed four experts on what Canadian politicians should do to address the climate crisis, including protecting climate activists and creating policy led by Indigenous people, for The Tyee. Photo credit: AP Photo/Martin Meissner, File  

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Maria and Julio talk about the election in California to recall Governor Gavin Newsom. They hear from Jean Guerrero, an opinion columnist for the Los Angeles Times about how this effort was rooted in white supremacy. They also get into the Senate hearing on how FBI agents failed to investigate allegations of sexual abuse against former physician, Larry Nassar. And finally, they debrief the Met Gala.  ITT Staff Picks:  - Nathalie Baptiste writes about the flaws of California’s recall election process in this piece for Mother Jones.  - Danielle Campoamor writes “The strength required of those who testified during the hearing, and of every sexual assault victim who comes forward, is not innate, but born out of necessity. It is the result of the blatant and consistent failures of others,” in this piece for The Lily.  - Zeeshan Aleem writes about why Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s dress broke Twitter in this op-ed for MSNBC.  Photo credit: AP Photo/Ashley Landis  

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Maria and guest co-host Jamilah King, deputy inequality editor at BuzzFeed News, are joined by Lina-Maria Murillo, assistant professor of gender, women’s and sexuality studies, and history, at the University of Iowa, and Veronica Martinez, journalist covering gender and immigration for La Verdad, for a conversation about reproductive justice. They unpack the latest on the Texas abortion ban and Mexico’s Supreme Court ruling that decriminalizes abortion, and also get into how people historically have crossed these borders for abortion care. ITT Staff Picks:  - For the Washington Post, Lina-Maria Murillo writes about the history of abortion bans and flights: “No matter what antiabortion crusaders try, pregnant people will always find ways to have abortions — and networks that go beyond borders have long helped them navigate treatment options.” - The Texas abortion ban will heavily affect immigrant, Black, poor women of color and Texans with disabilities, report Jolie McCullough and Neelam Bohra, for The Texas Tribune.  - In a collaboration between La Verdad and El Paso Matters, Veronica Martinez reports about Mexico and Texas’ recent actions on abortion and how this will affect women on either side of the border. Photo credit: AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell, File  

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Maria and Julio dive deep into the latest news with reproductive rights, including the Texas law that came into effect earlier this month, prohibiting abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy, and a recent decision from Mexico’s Supreme Court to decriminalize abortion. They also reflect on the damage from Hurricane Ida in Louisiana and along the Northeast coast.  ITT Staff Picks:  - Elie Mystal writes for The Nation about all the things Democrats can do to fight Texas’s abortion ban, and protect reproductive rights.  - Juanita Ramos Ardila reports for Latino Rebels about the decision by Mexico’s Supreme Court to decriminalize abortion.  - “By shutting down operations in a controlled manner well ahead of the hurricane making landfall and installing equipment that prevents excess flaring, refineries can prevent enormous pollution events during hurricanes,” write Naveena Sadasivam and Jake Bittle for Mother Jones.  Photo credit: AP Photo/Jim Salter  

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Maria and Julio are joined by Rose Arce, journalist and executive producer at Soledad O’Brien Productions, and a former colleague of Maria’s, for an intimate conversation about their on-the-ground reporting on 9/11. They get into what it was like to cover these events and how it has impacted their personal lives and journalistic careers 20 year later.  ITT Staff Picks: - In this piece for CNN, Rose Arce writes about how she began teaching her daughter, Luna, about 9/11.  - For The New Republic, Jordan Michael Smith writes about the lasting impacts of 9/11 over the last 20 years, leading up to the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan. - Sewell Chan recounts his coverage of 9/11 in this opinion piece for the LA Times: “for me it was a turning point — a rupture between the first two decades of my life (hopeful striving) and the next two (anxious striving).” Photo credit: AP Photo/Mark Lennihan  

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Maria and Julio are joined by Mansoor Adayfi, a former Guantánamo detainee and author of the new book “Don't Forget Us Here: Lost and Found at Guantánamo.” They talk about Mansoor’s experience being detained for 14 years, without charge or trial, at the U.S. military prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba and get an inside look into the place that has tortured detainees and restricted access to the media for nearly two decades.   ITT Staff Picks:  - As U.S. troops leave Afghanistan, Mansoor Adayfi writes about how the end of the war on terror must include closing Guantánamo, for The Boston Globe. - Benjamin R. Farley, law-of-war counsel at the U.S. Department of Defense, Military Commissions Defense Organization, writes about what President Biden must do to right the wrongs of Guantánamo, for The Atlantic. - For Foreign Policy, Fatima Bhutto writes about Ahmed Rabbani, one of the last prisoners still being detained at Guantánamo: “U.S. officials have been explicit about what they call “forever prisoners,” men who will never be charged with a crime; Rabbani is one such prisoner.” Photo credit: Courtesy of Mansoor Adayfi  

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Maria and Julio are joined by Jon Hale, professor at the University of Illinois, and author of the new book, “The Choice We Face: How Segregation, Race and Power Have Shaped America’s Most Controversial Education Reform Movement,” and Leigh Patel, professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Education, and author of the new book, “No Study Without Struggle: Confronting Settler Colonialism in Higher Education.” They get into the history of structural racism in the U.S. public education system and discuss the controversy around critical race theory. ITT Staff Picks:  - Nicole Carr writes about what it was like to navigate the decision of sending her children back to school in a school district that wouldn’t reinstate masking in this piece for ProPublica.   - “You might even say that we’ve always had race theory in the classroom: the teaching, implicitly and sometimes explicitly, of a white-centric view of history,” writes Anthony Conwright in this piece for The New Republic.  - Gloria J. Browne-Marshall, author and professor of constitutional law at John Jay College, writes about her own experience with bussing and the state of school segregation twenty years later, in this 2019 piece for Time Magazine.  Photo credit: AP Photo/David Zalubowski  

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In this rebroadcast episode from earlier this year, Maria and Julio are joined by Charles Blow, columnist for The New York Times and author of "The Devil You Know: A Black Power Manifesto." They talk about Black political power and Charles' call for a reversal of the Great Migration to create Black regionalism in the South. They also discuss how to confront anti-Black violence in this moment of racial reckoning.   ITT Staff Picks:  - For The New York Times Opinion, Charles Blow writes about the new census data proving to be frightening for white nationalists, and the importance of political power.  - Malcolm Carter reports on how some cities are ready to challenge the census results, fearing there was an undercount in the Black community, for The Community Voice. - The Black Power Movement was “an outgrowth of the civil rights movement that emerged in the 1960s with calls to reject slow-moving integration efforts and embrace self-determination,” writes Jameelah Nasheed, Op-Ed columnist for Teen Vogue.   Photo credit: Beowulf Sheehan   This episode originally aired in February 2021 and was mixed by Rosana Cabán.  

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Julio is joined by Rogelio Sáenz, demographer and professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio and Hansi Lo Wang, NPR national correspondent reporting on the people, power and money behind the U.S. census, to geek out over the 2020 census results. They dive into the latest race and ethnicity data and discuss how the data will impact policy, funding, and redistricting. ITT Staff Picks: - Adam Serwer, writes about the 2020 census findings and the history of how the United States has counted people who identify as white, for The Atlantic. - For NPR, Hansi Lo Wang reports on how the white population is changing based on the recent census results: “it's largely the result of a major shift in how the U.S. census asks about people's racial identities.” - The U.S. population is becoming more diverse, due to growth in Latino, Asian and multiracial populations, writes Rogelio Sáenz about the 2020 Census for Latino Rebels. Photo credit: AP Photo/Rick Bowmer, File  

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Maria and Julio get into the latest breaking news from Afghanistan and discuss the role of mainstream media and multiple presidential administrations throughout the destructive war. They also hear from Ali Latifi, an Afghan journalist for Al Jazeera English based in Kabul. Finally, they get into the devastation caused by the recent earthquake in Haiti and what it means for people who are still rebuilding from prior disasters. ITT Staff Picks:  - “Afghanistan has been a victim of foreign influence, decades of intrusion by our neighbors, two deadly occupations, and decades of nonstop violence,” writes Ali Latifi in this piece for The Nation. - Nasrin Nawa writes in this piece for the Washington Post about what she is hearing from her sister, and other family members, as they try to flee Afghanistan. - Garry Pierre-Pierre writes about the lessons the Haitian diaspora can learn from 2010 when it comes to offering help for The Haitian Times.  Photo credit: 1st Lt. Mark Andries/U.S. Marine Corps via AP  

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