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The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Jeff Gamet, Guy Serle, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius. We unpack Apple's latest OS updates, new Vision Pro features, and the Ultra 3 Watch—with laughs about turkey vultures, DACs, and not testing fall detection by jumping off cliffs. Plus: Apple's record-breaking quarter, new App Store web app, and Apple TV rebranding.Jeff reviews the Audioengine HXL DAC, calling it "tiny but mighty" for audiophiles, while Marty praises Apple's new App Store web interface for making app discovery easier across all devices.
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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In Episode 394, Dave and the panel dive deep into Apple's fall updates with laughter, insights, and the occasional turkey vulture reference. The crew explores the rollout of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS 26.1, watchOS, tvOS, and visionOS 26.1, covering both the new features and the "why is my audio weird?" moments.
Dave shares his Vision Pro M5 experience with the new dual knit band that may be the best $100 head strap you didn't need—but bought anyway. Marty highlights VisionOS improvements, including Logitech Muse stylus support and developer fixes. Jill and Eric praise the Vision Pro stability and clarity, while Guy laments Apple's confusing numbering scheme.
The conversation shifts to iOS 26.1, with battery life improvements, manual workout logging, and AI-powered updates leading the list. Jeff warns about audio glitches, while Jill celebrates working out manually (on her Watch, that is). The crew debates iPadOS's new multitasking—and how everyone accidentally triggers Slide Over now.
There's lively discussion on HomePod performance, tvOS tweaks, and watchOS bugs, including Eric's hilarious tip: turn off Bluetooth so the update doesn't take seven hours.
Jill debuts her Apple Watch Ultra 3, promising not to test fall detection by "throwing herself off a mountain"—a running joke that quickly derails into chaos ("Don't go hiking with Jill!").
Later, Jeff reviews the Audioengine HXL DAC, calling it "tiny but mighty" for audiophiles, while Marty praises Apple's new App Store web interface for making app discovery easier across all devices.
Finally, the crew cheers Apple's Q4 financial performance, with record-breaking $102.5 billion revenue, strong Mac sales, and unstoppable Services growth. As Dave puts it—"Apple's doomed… to keep making money."
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
Apple Releases visionOS 26.1 With Vision Pro App for iPad
visionOS 26.2 Beta 1 Release Notes
Apple Releases First watchOS 26.2, tvOS 26.2 and visionOS 26.2 Betas
Dave received his Apple Vision Pro Dual Knit Band
Beta this week. All OS 26.1 was released to the public. iOS 26.2 Beta was released this week.
iOS 18.7.2 now available for iPhone, here's what's new
Apple Releases iOS 26.1 With Liquid Glass Toggle, Slide to Stop Alarm, New Apple Intelligence Languages and More
Apple releases iOS 26.1, macOS 26.1, other updates with Liquid Glass controls and more
Apple Releases iPadOS 26.1 With Slide Over Multitasking
Apple Releases tvOS 26.1
Apple Releases watchOS 26.1 With Bug Fixes
Apple Releases HomePod Software 26.1 With Performance Improvements
iOS 26.2 Beta 1 was released this week
Apple Seeds First Betas of iOS 26.2 and iPadOS 26.2 to Developers
Everything New in iOS 26.2 Beta
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple Releases macOS Tahoe 26.1 With New Liquid Glass Setting and More
First macOS Tahoe 26.2 Beta Now Available to Developers
Other Topics
Jeff gives his review of the Audioengine HXL Portable Balanced Headphone Amplifier & DAC
Jill has her new Apple Watch Ultra 3 and gives her first impressions
Apple Launches App Store for the Web
App Store on the Web
News
Charts: Apple caps off high-flying fiscal year with Q4 record
Apple's fiscal 2025 in charts – Six Colors
Apple TV+ to Apple TV Rebrand Now Official, Here's the New Intro
Apple One Gets New Colorful Logo Following Apple TV Rebrand [Updated]
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Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
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Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Guy Serle is one of the hosts of the new The Gmen Show along with GazMaz and email [email protected] @MacParrot and @VertShark on X Vertshark on YouTube, Google Voice +1 Area code 703-828-4677
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Ben Roethig. the panel covers the latest VisionOS 26.1 beta, Apple's immersive media developer sessions, iOS/iPadOS 26.1 features, and usability tweaks like the liquid glass customization and app defaults in Files. The group also discusses Apple Maps ads, Spotify's new Apple TV app, T-Mobile autopay restrictions, and the soon-to-arrive digital U.S. passport feature in Apple Wallet — all with humor, strong opinions, and relatable real-world Apple use cases.
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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Summary
The episode opens with David preparing for a Vegas birthday trip and the panel noting the fun milestone of episode 393 being a numeric palindrome.
The conversation quickly shifts to VisionOS 26.1, where Marty notes that the most recent release candidate feels light on visible changes, leaving users eager for VisionOS 26.2 to bring more meaningful updates. Eric highlights new comfort-focused Vision Pro band patent designs aimed at improving ergonomics, sparking humor about Apple eventually adding a knob for everything — "soon you'll need a wrench to adjust your face."
The panel then discusses Apple's recent developer event focused on immersive media, including guidance for filming spatial content, editing workflows, and format constraints — a move Apple hopes will encourage new creators and expand immersive content libraries on Vision Pro.
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26.1 Beta 4 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
Apple Explores Smart Tension Bands to Improve Vision Pro Design
Apple Hosts Special Vision Pro Event for Developers
Beta this week.
Apple Seeds iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, and macOS Tahoe 26.1 Release Candidates
iPadOS 26.1 RC now available ahead of public launch
iOS 26.1 release candidate now available with these changes
iOS 26.1 will add four new ways to customize your iPhone
In Touch With Mac this week
Here Are Apple's Release Notes for macOS Tahoe 26.1
MacPaw releases Moonlock, a standalone macOS security app with real-time protection, smart insights, built-in VPN, more
iMazing 3.4: enjoy pro-level control of your iPhone
Other Topics
M4 vs. M5 iPad Pro Buyer's Guide: 20 Differences Compared
Did you know? Can you use YouTube Music offline on Apple Watch?
Another Tip: iOS 26: Set a default app for opening files on iPhone or iPad
News
Apple Reportedly Moving Ahead With Ads in Maps App
Spotify Launches Redesigned Apple TV App With Music Videos, Podcasts
T-Mobile closing AutoPay discount loophole for Apple Pay and credit card payments
Apple Says U.S. Passport Feature on iPhone is Coming Soon
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Guy Serle, Eric Bolden, Jeff Gamet, Marty Jencius, Ben Roethig. The panel compares Vision Pro vs Samsung Galaxy XR, reviews VisionOS Beta 4, reacts to Apple refusing Vision Pro trade-ins, discusses GM backing away from CarPlay, examines iPhone Air production concerns, and analyzes YouTube's new AI likeness detection tool and its implications for creators. iPhone Air production and strategy concerns, tied to mid-tier pricing pressure. YouTube's new AI deepfake likeness detection, and what it means for creators and security.
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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Summary
In Episode 392, Dave and the panel take on one of the biggest shifts in the VR landscape: Samsung's new Galaxy XR headset entering the same airspace as the Apple Vision Pro. The group compares weight, comfort, thermal balance, strap systems, and software ecosystems. Marty shares his early hands-on impressions with the Galaxy XR—including its lighter design but occasional light leakage—while Ben and Jill discuss how purpose may determine market success: Vision Pro for spatial productivity, Galaxy XR for approachable consumer entry.
The discussion moves to VisionOS Beta 4, where developer-focused updates aim to improve stability and groundwork for more immersive experiences. The consensus: incremental but necessary.
Then comes one of the show's most passionate sections:
Apple's decision not to allow trade-ins of the first-generation Vision Pro.
The panel debates how this affects:
• customer loyalty
• early-adopter trust
• whether the Vision Pro is being treated like a dev kit vs. consumer product.
Reactions range from "understandable" to "rough look for a $3,500 device."
From there, the conversation shifts to the GM / CarPlay breakup, which inspires instant groans. Everyone shares personal and community stories confirming that CarPlay is no longer a luxury—it's baseline expectation. One panelist notes even non-tech friends refuse to buy a car without CarPlay, which says more than any product review ever could.
iPhone Air production and strategy concerns, tied to mid-tier pricing pressure
YouTube's new AI deepfake likeness detection, and what it means for creators and security
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26.1 Beta 3 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
New Samsung Vision Pro Killer? Samsung's Galaxy XR Mixed Reality Headset Now Available for $1,800
Official Replay | Galaxy Event October 2025 | Samsung
Spec Category
Apple Vision Pro (M5)
Samsung Galaxy XR
Processor / Chipset
Apple M5 chip: 10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine, built on 3nm process.
Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2+ Gen 2 platform.
Display & Resolution / Refresh Rate
Dual micro-OLED displays, ~23 million pixels total, up to 120 Hz refresh rate.
Dual micro-OLED displays, 3552×3840 pixels per eye (≈27 million pixels total), refresh up to ~90 Hz.
Weight (headset unit)
Reported ~750-800 g (26.4-28.2 ounces) for M5 version.
~545 g for the headset unit; external battery pack adds additional weight.
Battery Life
Up to ~2.5 hours general use, ~3 hours video playback for M5 version.
Up to ~2 hours general use, ~2.5 hours video. External battery unit (302 g) required.
Memory / Storage
(From earlier model) 16 GB unified memory, storage options (256 GB+, etc) for earlier Vision Pro.
16 GB RAM / 256 GB storage reported.
Ecosystem / OS
visionOS (Apple's spatial computing platform), tight Apple ecosystem integration.
Android XR OS (built in collaboration with Google and Samsung) with Gemini AI integration.
Launch Price
~$3,499 USD (for base Vision Pro) and remains at that level for upgraded M5 model.
~$1,799 USD at launch.
Apple Confirms Vision Pro is Not Eligible for Trade-In
Apple Releases New Vision Pro Developer Strap
Apple Vision Pro Now Made in Vietnam
Vimeo announces support for more 3D video formats on Apple Vision Pro
Beta this week.
iOS 26.1 Beta 4 was released.
Apple Seeds Fourth Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS Tahoe 26.1 and More
What's New in iOS 26.1 Beta 4
iOS 26.1 Beta 4 Adds Toggle to Turn Off Lock Screen Camera Swipe
iOS 26.1 Beta 4 Lets Users Control Liquid Glass Transparency with New Toggle - MacRumors
iOS 26.1 Coming Soon With These 8 New Features for Your iPhone
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple Seeds Fourth Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS Tahoe 26.1 and More
Other Topics
Important! iOS 26 has a new iPhone security setting that you need to turn on immediately
Apple's Sports app just got better for NFL and college football fans - 9to5Mac
OpenAI Launches 'ChatGPT Atlas' Browser to Compete with Safari and Chrome
OpenAI Acquires Apple Shortcuts Creators to Bring Deep Mac Integration to ChatGPT
News
GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars
Apple's iPhone Air Experiment Fails as Supply Chain Cuts Production by 80% and Report: 'Virtually No Demand' for iPhone Air
Some Cosmic Orange iPhone 17 Pros Seeing Discoloration Issue
New 14-Inch MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, and Vision Pro Now Available at Apple Stores
YouTube Rolls Out AI Likeness Detection Tool to Prevent Deepfakes
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
Guy Serle is one of the hosts of the new The Gmen Show along with GazMaz and email [email protected] @MacParrot and @VertShark on X Vertshark on YouTube, Skype +1 Area code 703-828-4677
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Ben Roethig. covers Apple's new Vision Pro M5, iPad Pro M5, and MacBook Pro M5, along with reactions to the Apple TV rebrand, AirPods Pro 3 inflight experiences, and iOS 26.1 beta updates. The panel debates upgrade value, trade-ins, and Apple's AI direction—while delivering laughs about blood-test preorders, "no-good sons," and iPads that go "womp-womp."
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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In Episode 391 of In Touch With iOS, host David Ginsburg welcomes Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, and Ben Roethig to unpack Apple's October announcements—and crack a few jokes along the way.
The panel dives into the launch of the Vision Pro M5, iPad Pro M5, and 14-inch MacBook Pro M5, exploring how Apple's latest chip is showing up everywhere—from spatial computing to creative workflows. Marty admits to pre-ordering the new Vision Pro while having blood drawn, leading to the episode's funniest moment ("They took my blood, I gave Apple my money"). Jeff immediately volunteers to be Marty's "no-good son" to inherit the old headset, sparking laughter about "device reallocation" policies.
Discussion turns to the Vision Pro's new dual-knit band and Hover headset accessory, which redistributes weight to the crown of the head. Dave likens it to "flipping up granny sunglasses," while Ben compares it to wearing "night-vision goggles." Chuck's wise counsel: "Wait for the M5 Pro—patience beats payment."
MacBook Pro M5 specs are examined in detail—10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 24-hour battery life (cue the joke: "if you never touch it"), and no Wi-Fi 7 support. Marty shares his "trade-up philosophy" while Jeff laments his $800 trade-in offer: "It lost that much value that fast?" Chuck recommends Apple's refurb store, calling it "the best deal Apple doesn't advertise."
The crew also explores the iPad Pro M5, agreeing that performance gains are meaningful but most users won't need to upgrade. Jill admits her iPad mostly serves as a "sleep-aid game console," while Eric says Vision Pro has cut into his tablet use entirely.
Other highlights:
• Vision Pro M5's 120 Hz refresh rate and better cooling.
• No Wi-Fi 6E bump—for $3,500, that drew audible groans.
• AI readiness of the M5 chip sparks debate on whether Apple even has an "AI strategy."
• Apple TV's rebranding from "TV+" to "Apple TV," which the panel calls "peak confusion."
• AirPods Pro 3 flight test: Marty's seal so tight it caused ear "pop-pop-pop" moments, while Dave says noise-canceling on planes "kills all sound, including your will to chat."
Topics and Links
Breaking News
Apple Debuts New iPad Pro With M5 Chip, Faster Charging, and More
Apple Announces New 14-Inch MacBook Pro With M5 Chip
Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support
Here's Everything Apple Announced Today
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26.1 Beta 3 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support
🧠 Apple Vision Pro: M2 vs. M5 Comparison
Apple Vision Pro - Technical Specifications
Overview
The Vision Pro M5 refines Apple's first-generation spatial computer powered by the M2 chip. While maintaining the same physical design and R1 co-processor, the M5 version delivers faster performance, a higher refresh-rate display, longer battery life, and a more comfortable headband. It's an evolutionary update rather than a redesign, aimed at smoother visuals and greater efficiency.
⚙️ Key Feature Comparison
Feature
Vision Pro (M2)
Vision Pro (M5)
Chip & Architecture
Apple M2 (8-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine)
Apple M5 (10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine)
Memory Bandwidth
100 GB/s
153 GB/s
Display & Rendering
Up to 100 Hz refresh rate
Up to 120 Hz refresh rate with improved clarity
Performance
Excellent for visionOS apps and multitasking
Up to 50% faster in system and AI operations
Battery Life
≈ 2 hours general use, 2.5 hours video playback
≈ 2.5 hours general use, 3 hours video playback
Headband / Fit
Solo Knit or Dual Loop Band
New Dual Knit Band with improved comfort and balance
Design & Weight
600–650 g (excluding battery)
750–800 g, same external design
Storage Options
256 GB, 512 GB, or 1 TB
256 GB, 512 GB, or 1 TB
Compatibility
Supports all visionOS apps and accessories
Fully backward-compatible with M2 accessories
💡 SummaryThe Vision Pro M5 enhances Apple's spatial computing experience with smoother motion, faster response times, and slightly longer battery life. It remains visually identical to the M2 model but offers better ergonomics and efficiency.
For existing M2 owners, the upgrade is optional—your experience remains excellent—but for professionals working with AR creation, 3D rendering, or multitasking, the M5's performance headroom makes a noticeable difference.
No trade-ins for AVP
Apple doesn't offer trade-in option for M5 Vision Pro upgrades - 9to5Mac
Dave and Marty review Hover Headset
New Items
Apple Vision Pro Dual Knit Band Sizing
Well well well, what do we have here… : r/VisionPro
Logitech Muse - Apple
Apple to sell Sony Playstation VR Controllers
Beta this week.
Apple Seeds Third Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS Tahoe 26.1 and More
Everything new in iOS 26.1 beta 3 - 9to5Mac
iOS 26.1 beta 3 reveals new third-party AI integrations may be coming soon - 9to5Mac
Apple Seeds Third Public Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1 and macOS Tahoe 26.1 - MacRumors
Apple Releases AirPods Pro 2, AirPods Pro 3 and AirPods 4 Firmware for Public Beta Testers - MacRumors
Apple Preparing iOS 26.0.2 Update for iPhones - MacRumors
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple releases macOS Tahoe 26.1 beta 3 for developers
Apple Announces New 14-Inch MacBook Pro With M5 Chip
Compare Mac models
iPad M5 UpgrADE
Apple Debuts New iPad Pro With M5 Chip, Faster Charging, and More
Compare iPad models Try older model comparisons.
Other Topics
Dave travelled to Kansas City to take in a Chiefs game and of course had to do some testing with the AirPods Pro 3 and the listening mode on the flights.
F1 movie released to streaming and Apple TV+ rebranding
'F1: The Movie' Coming to Apple TV+ on Friday, December 12
Apple TV+ Being Rebranded as Apple TV
Eddy Cue explains why Apple TV dropped the Plus, and how it's not confusing
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
Summary
In Episode 390 of In Touch With iOS, host Dave Ginsburg is joined by Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, and Ben Roethig to tackle Apple's latest updates with a mix of analysis and humor.
The panel begins with VisionOS 26.1 beta 2, highlighting improved game controller responsiveness and Apple's new immersive films—from Hawaii's volcanoes to Maine's autumn colors. Marty jokes Apple just used the Photos app's magic wand to turn summer into fall, while the group teases about running out of U.S. states to film. They also discuss the quirky Hover strap accessory that "flips up like old-man sunglasses" with ad copy quoting "When a problem comes along, you must flip it."
iOS 26.1 beta 2 gets attention for bigger alarm buttons, a snooze/stop redesign, and expanded Apple Intelligence languages. On iPad, the return of Slide Over sparks relief, while microphone gain control earns praise for podcasters. Apple's Fitness app adds custom workouts, and AirPods Pro 3 receive a firmware update. Marty shares a hilarious inflight story: the new seal was so tight his ears went "poppity, poppity, poppity" during descent.
The crew explores iPhone 17's USB-C capabilities—charging AirPods, external displays, Ethernet, even other iPhones. Jeff jokes about using USB-C mics for bird-watching apps, while Eric tests charging his Apple Watch directly from the iPhone.
Other highlights:
Amazon Prime splurges (camera arms, Stream Decks, car jumpers, and audio gear).
Tag Heuer's $1,600 Connected E5 smartwatch, now iPhone-certified—"a $1,600 dongle for your wrist."
Apple's Colorado outdoor influencer event (hiking + AirPods demos).
Cosmic Orange skins from Dbrand, prompting jokes about spray-tanning MacBooks or eating Cheetos near your iPhone.
Liquid Glass design spreading to more Apple apps.
CarPlay tensions: Rivian's refusal, Aston Martin as the lone CarPlay Ultra supporter, and frustration over automakers backtracking. Jeff warns CarPlay Ultra might never gain widespread adoption unless Apple compromises.
The panel closes with laughs about hidden iPhone call history ("your spouse's attorney already knows"), cosmic orange hunting gear, and CarPlay Ultra being more elusive than a lottery win.
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26.1 Beta 2 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
Dave's review. Apple releases new 'Elevated' episode for Apple Vision Pro - 9to5Mac
Marty found a new headset extension call the Hover headset. https://hoverheadset.com/?country=US
Beta this week.
iOS 26.1 Beta 2 was released this week. iOS 26.1 beta 2 now available
iPadOS 26.1 beta 2 available now, here's what to expect
iPadOS 26.1 Beta 2 Reintroduces Slide Over Multitasking
watchOS 26.1 beta 2 rolling out now for Apple Watch users
tvOS 26.1 beta 2 now available for Apple TV 4K
Apple Seeds Second Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS Tahoe 26.1 and More
Apple Seeds Second Public Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1 and macOS Tahoe 26.1
Everything New in iOS 26.1 Beta 2
Apple Fixes Alarms in iOS 26.1
5+ New Features Your iPhone Will Get in iOS 26.1
Apple Releases New Firmware for AirPods Pro 3, AirPods Pro 2 and AirPods 4
What can I plug into my iPhone 17 USB-C port?
AirPods Pro 3 Experience on Plane - Marty
🔋 Charging Apple Watch and iPhone Together with MagSafe
What You Need
• iPhone with USB-C (iPhone 15 models and later)
• MagSafe Charger (for iPhone)
• Apple Watch Magnetic Charger (USB-C version)
How to Set It Up
1. Charge your iPhone via MagSafe
• Place your iPhone on the MagSafe Charger connected to a wall adapter.
• This gives your iPhone continuous power.
2. Connect your Apple Watch charger to your iPhone
• Plug the Apple Watch's USB-C charging puck into your iPhone's USB-C port.
• Place your Apple Watch on the puck.
3. Both devices charge at once
• Your iPhone is powered by MagSafe.
• At the same time, your iPhone passes power through its USB-C port to your Apple Watch.
Notes & Tips
• This setup is handy for travel: only one wall adapter needed.
• The iPhone passes enough power for accessories like Apple Watch and AirPods, but not for larger devices.
• Your iPhone may warm up slightly since it's charging itself and providing power out at the same time
iOS 26 Tips
iOS 26: Keep AirPods Connected When You Get in Your Car
iOS 26: See Your Full Call History With Any iPhone Contact
iOS 26: Make Your iPhone Wait on Hold for You
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple releases macOS Tahoe 26.1 developer beta 2
Cool MacOS app found. Folder Quick Look on the Mac App Store Folder Quick Look is a deliciously simple and useful utility that should be part of macOS
Other Topics
We all recovered from Amazon Prime days. What did we all buy?
Jeff and Dave https://amzn.to/4q2ryoL
Dave https://amzn.to/48VDRNi
Jill https://amzn.to/4nDHI6i Focusrite 2i2 4th
Jill https://amzn.to/4hp18K5 - Car Jumper/Battery
News
New TAG Heuer Smartwatches Now 'Made for iPhone'
Apple Modifies In-Store MagSafe Stands to Prevent iPhone 17 Marks
Apple Hosts Unusual Colorado Event to Showcase Latest Hardware - MacRumors
Now you can have all your Apple devices in the new Cosmic Orange
Apple Mocks Windows PCs in Humorous New 'Blue Screen of Death' Ad
More Apple Apps Get Liquid Glass Redesign
Rivian CEO Doubles Down on Decision to Not Offer Apple CarPlay
These Vehicle Brands Plan to Offer Apple's CarPlay Ultra
Announcements
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Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius. We cover Vision Pro leaks, iOS 26 fixes, and Apple's smart glasses strategy. The panel also discusses Wallet delivery tracking, new ringtones, CarPlay Ultra pushback, privacy screens, and iPhone 17 market trends. Expect sharp insights and plenty of laughs—like Jill watching underwear ads on a plane, Marty's Brick House ringtone fail, and the crew dubbing Apple rumor fans "The Germaniacs."
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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Episode 389 of In Touch With iOS kicks off with host Dave Ginsburg and the full panel—Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, and Ben Roethig—fresh off celebrating a Cubs playoff win.
The conversation dives into Vision Pro updates and Apple's latest security patches, including a quirky "malicious font" bug. From there, the panel dissects an FCC leak that revealed a refreshed Vision Pro with an M5 chip—sparking jokes about the government "protecting secrets by giving them away." Debate follows on whether Apple's reported pivot to AI-powered smart glasses is a strategic win or just creepy.
Jason Snell's VisionOS review gets praise as thoughtful and balanced, while the panel adds their own takes on environments, widgets, and gaming controller support. iOS 26.0.1 and watchOS 26.0.2 are unpacked, addressing iPhone 17 connectivity and battery bugs, while macOS Tahoe gets flak for lingering Electron app slowdowns. Jeff delivers a mini public service announcement about Slack, Discord, and Trello devouring system memory.
The panel shifts gears to Wallet app delivery tracking, which impresses some while frustrating others with inaccurate status updates. A lighter segment celebrates Apple finally adding seven new ringtones, prompting stories: Marty blasting Brick House in a faculty meeting, Jill rocking '80s ringtones, and Jeff's Futurama theme drawing smiles in public.
Other highlights include:
• CarPlay Ultra controversy — Ford pushes back, Jill's Subaru story about passengers killing her map, and Chuck's take on carmakers clinging to "unique" interfaces.
• Privacy screen protectors — Jill recalls spying underwear ad designs on a plane, Jeff insists "just don't show sensitive info in public," and Marty questions if this "solution" solves a problem at all.
• Market trends — iPhone 17 Pro demand surges while the iPhone Air lags, with trade-in deals and China demand influencing sales.
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
About the security content of visionOS 26.0.1
FCC Accidentally Leaks Apple's Next Vision Pro - MacRumors
Apple Shelves Vision Headset Revamp to Prioritize Meta-Like AI Smart Glasses
visionOS 26 Review: Keep moving toward the future
Beta this week.
Apple Releases iOS 26.0.1 With Fixes for Wi-Fi, Cellular, and Camera Issues on iPhone 17 Models
Apple Releases watchOS 26.0.2, visionOS 26.0.1 and tvOS 26.0.1
iPhone Cell Network Bug Fixed With iOS 26.0.1 Update
Apple Notes in iOS 26.1 adds new swipe gesture for power users
How to fix iMessage activation issue on iOS 26
iOS 26.1 release date: Here's when to expect the next iPhone update
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple Releases macOS Tahoe 26.0.1 With M3 Ultra Bug Fix
Electron apps causing macOS Tahoe performance problems
Other Topics
iOS 26: Track Emailed Orders in Apple Wallet
iOS 26 added seven brand new iPhone ringtones, listen here
Ford CEO Provides Update on CarPlay Ultra - MacRumors
Best Privacy Screen Protectors For iPhone 17 Pro Max
News
New iPhones See 'Stronger Than Expected' Demand With One Exception
Apple Watch Series 3 lineup and iPhone 11 Pro Max now 'vintage'
T-Mobile's Satellite Service Now Works With Popular Apps
Apple TV+ reveals the trailer for the upcoming documentary event "Mr. Scorsese"
Apple TV+ extends its deal to be the exclusive streaming home for 'Peanuts' until 2030
YouTube TV & NBC Reach a Long Term Deal To Keep NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, & More
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
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Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Ben Roething. The panel covers VisionOS 26.1 immersive films, iOS/macOS/iPadOS updates, and the new digital passport in Wallet. The panel explores the Apple Watch Series 11 and SE3, the iPhone 17's 18MP selfie camera, and AirPods Pro 3 fit quirks. They also touch on CarPlay bugs, NCAA coaches using iPads over Surface Pros, and the Disney Plus price hike. Expect both sharp insights and plenty of jokes—from hologram hosts to cable box passports.
Apple ecosystem · VisionOS 26.1 · Apple Vision Pro · Apple Watch Series 11 · Apple Watch SE3 · iPhone 17 · iPhone Air · 18MP front camera · AirPods Pro 3 · iPadOS 26 · macOS Tahoe · Disney Plus · CarPlay · NCAA iPads
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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In this episode of In Touch With iOS, host David Ginsburg is joined by Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Ben Roethig, Chuck Joiner, and Eric Bolden for another wide-ranging Apple discussion filled with insights and laughs.
The panel kicks off with VisionOS 26.1, noting Apple's suspicious lack of release notes and testing new immersive films like the MotoGP documentary, Red Bull's skiing adventures, and even a BBC Proms experience. Dave also demos guest mode for Vision Pro with a co-worker, who was blown away by a Metallica immersive video.
Next, they dive into iOS 26.1, iPadOS, and macOS Tahoe updates, highlighting live translation in AirPods Pro 3, Safari tweaks, and the long-awaited digital passport in Wallet—sparking a hilarious debate about whether TSA, Minnesota, or cable companies would ever accept it.
The group then compares the Apple Watch Series 11 and SE3, praising brighter screens, sleep tracking, and health sensors, while joking that "Series 0 was basically an hourglass." Marty even admits wearing his watch to bed for the first time.
Conversation shifts to the iPhone 17's 18MP front camera, with its auto-rotate and zoom selfie features. Jill cracks that selfies are how people "die of bear attacks," while Eric recalls tugging on demo phones in Apple Stores until the security cords screamed.
Other highlights include:
• AirPods Pro 3 fit battles (with Marty suggesting ear reshaping via screwdriver)
• Repairability improvements spotted in iFixit teardowns
• CarPlay connectivity bugs (solved with wired connections, or defended as "protection from the Cylon invasion")
• NCAA teams adopting iPads over Surface Pros ("Surface: best used as a coffee stand")
• Disney Plus price hikes and streaming bundle frustrations
The episode wraps with speculation about Apple's ecosystem direction and plenty of laughs, blending serious tech analysis with classic panel humor.
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
iOS & iPadOS 26.1 Beta Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
Here Are the New Immersive Films Coming to Apple Vision Pro
Apple Immersive adds seven new films for Vision Pro
Dave's experience setting up Guest mode for friend
Beta this week.
Apple Seeds First Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, and macOS Tahoe 26.1
Everything New in iOS 26.1 Beta 1
iOS 26.1 Adds New Apple Intelligence Languages and Expands AirPods Live Translation
Apple Stops Signing iOS 18.6.2, iOS 26 Downgrades Now Impossible
In Touch With Mac this week
iPhone Mirroring on the Mac gets a key upgrade in macOS Tahoe
Other Topics
Apple Confirms iOS 26 Wallet Passport Feature is Coming in 2025
Apple Watch Experiences
iOS 26: Use Live Translation With AirPods
AirPods 4 vs. AirPods Pro 3 Buyer's Guide: 25 Differences Compared - MacRumors
Inside the Apple audio lab where AirPods are tested and tuned
Apple Music 5.0 update adds iOS 26 features to Android
10+ Hidden Features in iOS 26 - MacRumors
Apple Watch SE 3 Review: Premium Features Without the Premium Price
iPhone 17: Using the New Center Stage Front Camera
iPhone 17 Pro teardown reveals a repair-friendly design
iPhone Air teardown reveals that Apple's thinnest iPhone is still very repairable
iPhone Air Marty's review and thoughts one week after.
News
Some iPhone 17 users report Wi-Fi and CarPlay connectivity bugs
More NCAA Football Teams Using iPads for Video Replay During Games
Disney+ Getting Another Price Hike
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave is joined by Jill McKinley, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius. Episode 387 covers the iPhone 17 launch, VisionOS 26 improvements, and the Liquid Glass redesign in iOS 26. The panel debates consumer vs. business use cases for Vision Pro, explores AirPods Pro 3's new live translation and camera features, and reacts to early battery drain and "white squigglies" camera glitches. They wrap with hardware orders, cosmic orange iPhone debates, and plenty of laughs.
iPhone 17 review, iPhone 17 unboxing, iPhone 17 Pro cosmic orange, iOS 26 Liquid Glass, iOS 26 CarPlay changes, VisionOS 26 update, Apple Vision Pro review, AirPods Pro 3 live translation, AirPods Pro 3 sleep detection, macOS Tahoe update, Apple TV dark scenes fix, Apple podcast
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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The show kicks off with breaking news: iPhone 17 shipments have landed in Australia and New Zealand, with U.S. customers bracing for shipping delays unless they scored a launch-day pre-order. The panel shares excitement over their own incoming devices, including cosmic orange iPhone Pro models that sparked plenty of laughs and debate.
Attention then turns to VisionOS 26, with deeper looks at new features such as persistent widgets, spatial browsing in Safari, and improved Personas. The panel debates whether Apple Vision Pro is truly lagging in consumer adoption or simply carving out a business-focused niche with use cases like Lowe's immersive design demos.
From there, it's on to iOS 26 and its bold new Liquid Glass aesthetic, sparking spirited discussion around usability in apps like Messages, Safari, Photos, and CarPlay. Panelists share personal struggles, tips, and workarounds while reflecting on how "change is hard" — especially when muscle memory is involved.
The group also covers watchOS 26 enhancements (sleep scores, workout buddy, hypertension alerts), tvOS improvements (better dark-scene rendering), and macOS Tahoe quirks (installation issues on M3 Ultra). Jeff even jokes about calling it "macOS Donner Party," sending the panel into laughter.
The episode also highlights AirPods Pro 3's new tricks — including live translation, sleep detection, and camera control gestures — and acknowledges early iPhone 17 software bugs like the infamous "white squigglies" camera glitch, which Apple is already patching. Wrapping up, the panel shares their new hardware purchases and charging accessories while keeping the mood lively with running jokes about Real Housewives, pumpkin spice, and cosmic orange cases.
😂 Funny Moments:
• Marty: "Christmas in September!"
• Jeff: "Let's just call it macOS Donner Party."
• Jill: "Stay off the roads… I turned off Liquid Glass in CarPlay!"
• Dave: "The orange iPhone Pro? Looks like Real Housewives of Apple."
👉 Whether you're here for the serious Apple insights or the Brady Bunch jokes about battery drain, this episode delivers.
Topics and Links
Breaking News
First iPhone Air, iPhone 17, and iPhone 17 Pro Orders Now Arriving to Customers
iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone Air Launch Day is Near: 4 Things to Know
Apple confirms: The new iPhones have a camera problem | Macworld
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
Apple Releases visionOS 26 With Persistent Widgets, Lifelike Personas, and Spatial Scenes for Vision Pro
Apple Vision Pro finds foothold in business market as consumer sales lag
Beta this week. All OS'es are released this week/
iOS 26 Features: The Ultimate Mega Guide - MacRumors
iPadOS 26 review: Your iPad is more Mac-like than ever — and that's great news
Apple Releases watchOS 26 With Sleep Score, Workout Buddy, Hypertension Alerts, New Watch Faces and More
Apple tvOS 26 is here — all the biggest upgrades and changes you can try right now
How to use Apple Watch's hypertension feature in watchOS 26 - 9to5Mac
Tips on
Liquid Glass
App Changes mail finding where things are
Safari pinch to goto tabs
Day One iOS 26 Updates Required for All iPhone 17 Models
iOS 26.0.1 Coming Soon, Likely With iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro Fix
Brief on
AirPods Pro 3 just got their first firmware update
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple macOS Tahoe review: Apple Intelligence and Liquid Glass upgrades are a winning combo | Tom's Guide
Other Topics
How to get Apple's hot new iPhone color without buying an iPhone Pro
Apple explains why your iPhone may drain faster after updating to iOS 26 | Macworld
What did we all buy this week?
Dave bought these things
40W Dynamic Power Adapter with 60W Max - Apple
Apple's New Dynamic 40W to 60W Charger Has a Key Advantage
iPhone 17 Pro Max Silicone Case with MagSafe – Orange - Apple
MagSafe Charger (1 m)
Apple Watch Series 11 Midnight 46mm
AirPods Pro 3
iPhone 17 Pro Max Cosmic Orange 512GB
Spigen for iPhone 17 Pro Max Case
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Guy Serle, Eric Bolden, Jeff Gamet, Marty Jencius. The panel unpacks Apple's latest event: the iPhone 17 lineup, the sleek new iPhone Air, AirPods Pro 3 with heart-rate and live translation, and the Apple Watch Series 11 with new health features. Are these upgrades worth it—or just iterative polish? Tune in for analysis, debate, and laughs
The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com
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Summary
In Episode 386 of In Touch With iOS, David Ginsburg is joined by a full panel—Guy Serle, Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, and Eric Bolden—to dive into Apple's latest "awe-dropping" event. The discussion covers the iPhone 17 lineup, including the Pro and Pro Max models powered by the A19 Pro chip, upgraded camera systems, and improved thermal cooling. Panelists debate upgrade cycles, storage needs, and even whether "pumpkin spice" (aka orange) should count as a phone color.
We also break down the debut of the iPhone Air, Apple's thinnest iPhone yet, with its titanium build, new C1X modem, and unique design choices (including that hump). Is it just a super-thin marvel—or half of a future foldable iPhone? Opinions differ!
Next up, the AirPods Pro 3 bring stronger noise cancellation, a heart rate sensor, and game-changing live translation features. The crew weighs whether these are must-have upgrades or evolutionary refinements. Finally, the Apple Watch Series 11 and Ultra 3 take center stage, with blood pressure monitoring, sleep score features, and battery improvements sparking debate about health tracking and who benefits most from the new models.
Throughout the episode, the panel reflects on how Apple's hardware has entered an iterative phase—solid and polished, but less revolutionary. Still, with new colors, health sensors, and smarter features, there's plenty to discuss, speculate, and laugh about in this jam-packed post-event recap .
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26 available from Sep 15, with spatial widgets, new Personas and more
visionOS 26 Beta 9 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
New Jupiter Environment in visionOS 26 Marty reviews the changes with visionOS 26 RC Beta Here's Apple Vision Pro's new Jupiter Environment
Beta this week.
Apple Seeds iOS 26 and iPadOS 26 Release Candidates
iOS 26: Here are Apple's full release notes
Apple Seeds watchOS 26, tvOS 26, and visionOS 26 Release Candidates
Get Ready for Liquid Glass: You Can Download iOS 26, macOS Tahoe and More on September 15
Apple rolls out betas for iOS 18.7, macOS 15.7, and macOS 14.8
Xcode 26 RC beta now available for developers
In Touch With Mac this week
Apple Seeds macOS Tahoe Release Candidate
Here Are Apple's macOS Tahoe 26 Release Notes
Apple Event Aw Dropping 9/9/25
Links to Features Everything Apple Announced at Today's Event in 13 Minutes
AirPods Pro 3 vs AirPods Pro 2: Here's everything new
Apple debuts new C1X in-house modem, the successor to C1
Apple announces the iPhone N1 chip, its own custom silicon for Bluetooth and WiFi radios
Apple Event Press Releases
iPhone
Apple unveils iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max, the most powerful and advanced Pro models ever
Introducing iPhone Air, a powerful new iPhone with a breakthrough design - Apple
Apple debuts iPhone 17
Apple Watch
Apple debuts Apple Watch Series 11, featuring groundbreaking health insights
Introducing Apple Watch Ultra 3
Apple introduces Apple Watch SE 3
Hypertension alerts are coming to these existing Apple Watch models
AirPods Pro 3
Introducing AirPods Pro 3, the ultimate audio experience
AirPods Pro 3 don't include a USB-C charging cable in the box
AirPods Pro 3 get foam-infused ear tips in five different sizes
Comparisons
Compare iPhone models
Apple Watch Compare
Compare AirPods models
Awe Dropping: Here's everything Apple didn't announce today
Here's every new accessory Apple just launched
Jeff gives his thoughts on the event and was it good or not
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Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
Guy Serle is one of the hosts of the new The Gmen Show along with GazMaz and email [email protected] @MacParrot and @VertShark on X Vertshark on YouTube, Skype +1 Area code 703-828-4677
The latest In Touch With iOS. In Episode 385, Dave Ginsburg, Kelly Guimont, Jill McKinley, Ben Roethig, and Marty Jencius preview the September 9th Apple Event. They cover iOS 26 Beta 9 and visionOS updates, iPhone 17 rumors, Apple Watch Series 11 upgrades, and Apple Wallet's enhanced travel features. The panel also dives into AirPods Pro 3, HomePod, Apple TV speculation, Astropad's anti-reflective protector, and Apple's evolving AI strategy. A lively mix of insight, rumors, and humor for Apple fans.
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Summary
In Episode 385 of In Touch With iOS, host Dave Ginsburg is joined by panelists Kelly Guimont, Jill McKinley, Ben Roethig, and Marty Jencius for an in-depth discussion on everything Apple ahead of the much-anticipated September 9th Apple Event.
The panel kicks off with reactions to the iOS 26 Beta 9 and visionOS Beta 9 releases, highlighting improvements like 3D charting support for developers, enhanced accessibility ratings in the App Store, and visual refinements such as the updated liquid glass interface. While some bugs remain, overall performance feels crisper and more polished.
Looking ahead to the event, the conversation centers on the iPhone 17 lineup — including rumors of a lighter iPhone 17 Air, spatial photography integration for Vision Pro, and whether the upgrades justify an annual refresh. Opinions are divided: some are eager to upgrade, while others remain skeptical about how compelling the changes will be.
The panel also dives into expected updates for the Apple Watch Series 11 and Apple Watch Ultra 3, including a possible return of blood oxygen monitoring and other health features. Other Apple ecosystem topics include:
Apple Wallet enhancements — digital boarding passes with live activities, airport maps, luggage tracking, and U.S. passport support.
AirPods Pro 3 rumors — improved noise cancellation, redesigned stems, and heart rate monitoring integration.
HomePod and AirTag updates — hopes for better battery life and a more seamless user experience.
Apple TV speculation — possible Wi-Fi 7 support and potential gaming opportunities.
In a lighter segment, the group discusses Astropad's new anti-reflective "Fresh Coat" screen protector, designed to reduce glare by 75% on the upcoming iPhone 17 Pro models. They also dive into Opera's revamped tab management on iOS, debating its potential to rival Safari and Chrome.
Finally, the episode touches on Apple's AI ambitions, exploring reports of a planned answer engine integrated with Siri, leveraging deals with OpenAI, Perplexity, or even Google Gemini. While Apple's AI strategy sparks mixed opinions, the panel agrees that user privacy and energy efficiency will likely remain top priorities.
This episode serves as the perfect primer before Apple's big event, balancing news, rumors, personal insights, and witty banter to prepare listeners for what's next in the Apple ecosystem.
Topics and Links
In Touch With Vision Pro this week.
visionOS 26 Beta 9 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation
Beta this week. iOS26 Beta 9 was released this week.
Apple releases iOS 26 beta 9 for iPhone
Apple releases beta 9 for iPadOS 26, tvOS 26, watchOS 26, more [U]
iOS 26: Import and Export Markdown Files in Apple Notes
Apple Wallet has three new features for boarding passes in iOS 26 - 9to5Mac
In Touch With Mac this week
macOS Tahoe 26 beta 9 now available
Predictions for the Apple Event September 9th
Beyond iPhone 17: Apple Rumored to Launch 10 Other Products in 2025 - MacRumors
AirPods Pro 3 coming next week: Here's every rumored feature - 9to5Mac
Five new Apple products are the biggest September 9 launch 'maybes' - 9to5Mac
iPhone 17 event promises to go beyond the usual yearly updates for each product - 9to5Mac
AirPods Max get an elegant solution to their biggest design flaw - 9to5Mac - Marty's AirPodMax charger
Other Topics
Astropad's 'Fresh Coat' Screen Protector Cuts iPhone Reflections by 75% Without Color Loss/
Apple Patents Next-Generation Taptic Engine
Apple's Shock-Resistant Haptic Engine Patent Signals Durability Leap for Future Devices
Apple Plans AI-Powered Web Search Tool for Siri to Rival OpenAI, Perplexity
News
New Opera Browser Features Aim to End Safari Tab Management Woes - MacRumors
Ecobee's Smart Security System Now Works With Home App and Siri
flair.co
Specific page for the vents: Smart Home HVAC Solutions for Central Heating and Cooling – Flair
Flair + ecobee: Smart HVAC Control Made Simple
Instagram Finally Comes to iPad
Netflix Moments Feature Gets Major Update for Scene Sharing on iOS
Announcements
Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when they're ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.
Macstock IX Digital Pass
Our Host
Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65 and the show @intouchwithios
Our Regular Contributors
Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @[email protected] and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet
Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at [email protected] https://thepodtalk.net
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at [email protected], on Mastodon at @[email protected], on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern.
Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group.
Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig. Website: https://roethigtech.com/
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