Inclusion Bites Podcast

Joanne Lockwood speaks with performance coach, psychotherapist, and workshop facilitator Shelley Bridgeman about what it really takes to “dare to be you” — not as a slogan, but as a practice of peeling back protection, facing fear, and choosing a more truthful way of living.

They explore how fear often shows up as fear of failure or rejection, and how people learn to numb pain or avoid being seen. Shelley shares her approach to supporting people in deep distress: listening without rushing to fix, helping someone find a first step, and building strategies to move forward.

The conversation also covers trans lived experience across different decades, from early visibility and hostile media narratives to today’s sustained public debates. Joanne and Shelley discuss coming out, relationships that change, and the possibility of reconnection — including Joanne’s evolving relationship with his father.

Shelley reflects on her experience challenging legal inequity for trans people, including a lengthy court journey that culminated in a landmark ruling, and what it taught her about persistence, community support, and the importance of standing up for equal rights. They close by touching on current tensions in public discourse, including women’s safety and fairness in sport, and the need for more workable, humane conversations.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by public speaking coach Lisa Braithwaite to unpack what she calls “outright optimism” and how it fuels a pushback against narrow, outdated ideas of what “professional” is supposed to look like.

They explore authenticity in public speaking and in everyday working life, including the pressure to appear polished on social media, the pull of perfectionism, and the fear of being judged or excluded for standing out. Lisa shares how “This Is What Professional Looks Like” has become a community where people reclaim self-expression—whether that’s hair, clothes, tattoos, or natural features—and why visibility matters for widening the definition of professionalism.

The conversation also touches on ageism and body image, the influence of gender socialisation on what people feel they “should” do to look acceptable, and how leaders, speakers, and individuals with relative privilege can help shift norms by modelling something different. Throughout, the focus stays on helping people feel freer, more connected, and more able to bring their whole selves to work and to the stage.

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Nicole Hardiman, a software and data engineer, reflects on two decades in tech and the persistent lack of gender balance she’s experienced—often being the only woman in the team, and at times the only woman in the building. She and Joanne Lockwood explore why representation still matters: when teams don’t reflect their users, products and decisions can miss the mark.

They discuss how technology is often portrayed as intimidating, “geeky,” and closed off, and why that framing discourages girls and underrepresented groups from seeing tech as a creative, collaborative career. Nicole shares practical ways the sector can widen the talent pipeline: going earlier into schools, proactively reaching people who don’t see themselves as “tech,” and valuing different routes into the profession.

The episode also explores workplace dynamics that affect retention and progression—bias from men and women, the impact of loud voices dominating meetings, and the importance of psychological safety so people can speak up and be heard. Joanne and Nicole examine the pressures women can face to conform to a leadership “cookie cutter,” and why authenticity and allyship are essential if organisations want lasting change rather than short-lived balance.

Throughout, the conversation keeps returning to one central idea: inclusion must involve everyone, including those with the power to change systems, hiring practices, and culture—otherwise progress will remain slow.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by intergenerational consultant Henry Rose Lee to unpack the myths and stereotypes different age groups hold about one another at work. They discuss how labels like “Baby Boomer”, “Gen X”, “Millennial” and “Gen Z” can be useful as learning tools while also becoming limiting when used to pigeonhole individuals.

The conversation explores what drives perceived generational differences, including major “periodic” events (technology shifts, Brexit, Covid) and “cohort” influences (platforms like Snapchat, gaming culture, social media). They look at how these forces affect communication, attention, learning, and the way people build community and loyalty—especially as social media becomes a key reference group for younger workers.

They also reflect on how Covid accelerated changes in working patterns, including hybrid and remote work, and why organisations may need to rethink culture, retention, and alumni relationships. Along the way, they touch on ageism at both ends of the spectrum, the value of older workers’ experience, and the importance of creating workplaces where people can connect and thrive across generations.

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Khakan Qureshi reflects on growing up feeling different and on the edges of multiple communities, from school playground dynamics and gender expectations to the pressures of culture, faith, and community norms. He describes how not fitting neatly into perceived boxes shaped his confidence, relationships, and sense of belonging, and how those experiences followed him into adulthood and the workplace.

The conversation explores being gay and Muslim, navigating family expectations, and the impact of stigma and political hostility over time. Khakan shares pivotal moments that strengthened his willingness to speak up, including experiences of homophobia, the legacy of Section 28, and the ongoing debates around conversion therapy and wider LGBTQ+ rights.

Khakan also discusses the role of resilience and support networks, the importance of visibility and role models, and what meaningful social change could look like. The episode closes with his reflections on advocacy within the South Asian community, his recognition with a British Empire Medal for LGBTQ+ equality work, and observations from his work supporting young people where anxiety and depression are increasingly common.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with trainer, consultant, and disability inclusion advocate Esi Hardy about what it really means for people to feel welcome, valued, and able to belong. Esi explains that inclusion is a felt experience, shaped by whether environments remove barriers or force people to constantly adapt, self-manage, and compensate.

Drawing on Esi’s lived experience as a wheelchair user, they explore how access is created or denied through everyday decisions: venue layout, toilets, transport, signage, staffing attitudes, and the often-unspoken assumptions that disabled people will be accompanied or will accept being treated as an inconvenience. They discuss how these repeated frictions create exhaustion, limit participation, and can feed internalised ableism.

The conversation widens to the importance of co-producing accessibility with people who have lived experience, and to recognising disability as diverse (including sensory, learning, mental health, and invisible disabilities). They also touch on stereotypes about disabled people’s social lives and interests, intersectionality (including LGBTQ+ disabled spaces through Esi’s work with ParaPride), and why accessibility improvements benefit everyone.

They close by reflecting on the gaps in public strategy and long-term support, and the need for sustained action—not just awareness—to build more equitable workplaces and public spaces.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Andrew Pain to discuss why domestic abuse must not be tolerated, drawing on Andrew’s experience as a long-term victim in a former marriage and his subsequent campaigning work.

They explore how domestic abuse can affect people of all genders and can include more than physical violence, including coercive control, economic abuse and gaslighting. Andrew explains gaslighting and shares an example of how it can make someone doubt their own judgement, and they discuss how fear, stigma and under-reporting can prevent men from speaking out.

The conversation also covers recognising escalation, the importance of boundaries, and practical language like “stop” and “enough” as early boundary-setting tools for children and adults. They reflect on the challenges of polarised public narratives and the need for respectful, centrist dialogue so that all victims can access support and society can move toward greater equality.

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Hung Lee, curator of Recruiting Brainfood, joins Joanne Lockwood to unpack the pressures many people feel to assimilate when living in a country where their ethnic background is not considered “native”. Drawing on his childhood experiences of bullying and attempts to “fit in”, Hung describes how early rejection can create a powerful drive to belong — and how that drive can lead to two unhelpful extremes: hyper-assimilation or outright rejection of the surrounding culture.

The conversation widens from personal lived experience into how belonging functions in workplaces and societies. Joanne and Hung discuss why organisations can struggle with the promise of being inclusive “for everyone” all of the time, and how polarisation and the “noisy minority” can distort dialogue. They explore ideas like the paradox of tolerance, the role of values and boundaries in any community, and the importance of sustained dialogue rather than defensive reactions when privilege or identity is challenged.

They also reflect on certainty, ideology, echo chambers, and the value of doubt as a tool for healthier debate and better decision-making. The episode closes with Hung sharing how Recruiting Brainfood began as a personal curation habit, and why consistency and community have been central to building an engaged audience over time.

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Michelle Mills-Porter joins Joanne Lockwood to explore what it means to “peel back our layers” and uncover our essence

Michelle recounts being caught in the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami in Sri Lanka, and how witnessing unexpected reactions in herself and others sparked a long journey into understanding what drives human behaviour beneath the surface. She describes developing her work around core subconscious driving forces, and why self-awareness can replace self-judgement when our instinctive reactions surprise us.

The conversation connects these insights to inclusion and belonging at work: how misunderstandings arise when people assume shared “values” are required for trust and collaboration, and how teams can grow when leaders recognise and work with different drivers. They also discuss readjusting after life transitions, supporting people leaving the armed forces, and how the pandemic prompted many to reassess what fulfilment at work really looks like.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Iain Chapman to explore what it means to learn to talk, to listen, and to learn, especially from the perspective of someone who describes himself as a white, heterosexual man in his fifties who wants everyone to be able to be themselves.

They discuss how inclusive conversations are built through curiosity, confidence, and a willingness to ask questions without judgement. Iain shares how his upbringing shaped his values, including early experiences around disability and the importance of language, and how workplace initiatives can create space for colleagues to share lived experience.

The conversation also looks at practical culture-building through internal speaker sessions that connect colleagues across an organisation, covering topics such as menopause, domestic abuse, autism, racism and everyday wellbeing. Iain reflects on the challenge of engaging people who resist change, the emotional toll of confrontational online exchanges, and how managing anxiety and protecting mental health can be part of sustaining allyship and inclusion work.

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