Inclusion Bites Podcast

Joanne Lockwood is joined by broadcaster and presenter Rachel Oliver, a dual UK–Australian national who describes Australia as home and reflects on the winding path that brought her back to the UK. Rachel shares how a background in nursing and an unexpected TV appearance opened a door into radio and podcasting, where she now writes and produces her own shows.

At the heart of the conversation is Rachel’s “stepping stones” idea: how today’s trans people inherit progress built by earlier generations and, in turn, create a safer, fairer future for those who come next. Joanne and Rachel discuss what it can feel like to live under increasing scrutiny, why debates about legal recognition and self-identification matter, and how non-binary people are still constrained by binary documentation systems.

They also explore the personal side of transition and authenticity: the long period many people spend resisting or repressing who they are, the relief that can come with medical transition, and the shift in perspective that follows when privilege changes. The episode closes with practical reflections on navigating the world as a trans person, including travel safety and the everyday anxiety that can arise in public spaces like toilets, alongside a wider call for solidarity across the LGBTQ+ community and for allies to stay engaged.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by leadership and sales specialist Niels Brabandt to challenge the idea that equality, diversity and inclusion is a “nice to have” in organisations. They discuss how EDI is frequently underfunded and treated as a compliance exercise, and why low-budget, click-through e-learning on unconscious bias rarely creates meaningful change.

Together they explore what leaders are accountable for: investing properly in development, creating safe spaces for honest questions, and recognising the business and human impacts of exclusion. They unpack how hiring and promotion practices often rely on networks and perceived “meritocracy”, reinforcing who gets access to opportunity and who is kept out.

The conversation also touches on cultural competence, reputation risk when senior leaders dismiss bias or use harmful language, and why social legitimacy matters more than titles in modern leadership. They close by arguing for practical, ongoing training and leadership decisions that shift systems, not just statements.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with Greg McCaw about how DEI work can get stuck in an echo chamber of familiar phrases that sound positive but aren’t always explained in a way that helps non-specialists take action. They explore common terms such as “bring your authentic self to work,” “allyship,” “intersectionality,” and “psychological safety,” and why organisations need to translate these into clear expectations, behaviours, and measurable signals.

They discuss how culture change happens through everyday decisions rather than one-off training, and why DEI efforts can become performative if external statements and campaigns aren’t backed up by employees’ lived workplace realities. Greg argues for focusing on business outcomes, testing and learning, and building reinforcement mechanisms across the employee lifecycle so progress is sustained.

The conversation also covers using data and engagement insights responsibly: breaking results down across different groups to spot experience gaps, asking uncomfortable questions, and using real-time feedback loops to enable managers and leaders to respond quickly. They close by reflecting on hybrid working and the opportunity to redesign culture and employee experience so remote and in-office colleagues have equitable access to opportunity and connection.

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Marcus Cauchi joins Joanne Lockwood to explore what it takes to “stretch imaginations” and move beyond default ways of working that no longer serve people, customers, or organisations. Through stories and practical examples, Marcus argues that received wisdom often survives long after its original purpose has disappeared, and that progress depends on regularly revisiting processes and asking better, more uncomfortable questions.

The conversation focuses on leadership and management: the limits of command-and-control, the link between trust and empowerment, and why many organisations pay lip service to diversity while still punishing difference through “fit” and conformity. Marcus and Joanne discuss psychological safety, constructive conflict, and how better decision-making happens when leaders create conditions for people to have a voice, learn through failure, and collaborate around a shared purpose.

They also dig into patterns that keep workplaces stuck, including ego, attachment, and drama-driven behaviours, introducing the drama triangle and the “winner’s triangle” as tools for healthier interactions. Marcus shares a simple awareness exercise to notice complaining, blame, and rescue dynamics, and outlines what great managers should be hired and rewarded to do: bring in diverse talent, coach rather than tell, remove obstacles, provide resources, and lead inclusively.

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Andi Maratos and host Joanne Lockwood explore what it means to live “on the edge” of the mainstream, and how that perspective can make it easier to see the world differently and create safer spaces for others.

Andi reflects on growing up feeling like they didn’t quite fit, “playing the game” in the corporate world, and the cost of hiding parts of their intrinsic self. They discuss the shift that can happen when a workplace makes room for individuality, and how authenticity can unlock confidence, reduce the need for masking, and support life and career decisions.

The conversation also looks outward: the role of allyship, the impact of public rhetoric on trans communities, and the difference between performative corporate Pride and meaningful action. Andi shares what organisations can do in practice, including reviewing policies such as transition-at-work guidance, resourcing internal networks, and backing inclusion with real investment.

Andi also talks about taking on the CEO role at Chrysalis (Gender Identity Matters), rebuilding and growing the charity’s support offer, and inviting listeners to get involved through donations, fundraising, and volunteering.

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Briana Tucker describes what it feels like to live under constant scrutiny as a woman of colour in Wisconsin, where everyday situations can carry the risk of being stereotyped, labelled, or treated as a threat. She shares stark examples of overt racism and how assumptions about “aggression”, professionalism, and even hair and appearance shape what feels safe at work, in public, and at home.

Joanne and Briana explore how labels and bias operate at both individual and institutional levels, including policing, healthcare, hiring, and education. They discuss the emotional and practical labour involved in staying safe, the role of allies validating experiences, and why people must take responsibility for their own learning rather than relying on marginalised communities to educate them.

The conversation also touches on faith, spirituality, and finding ways to move from heightened awareness to action. Briana closes by sharing her consulting work in process improvement and DEI advocacy, and why she wants a future where people can live without being defined by stereotypes and can show up as themselves, unapologetically.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by coach and retreat specialist Lulu Minns to explore what “freedom for everybody” really means, and why it matters for inclusion.

Lulu reflects on her former career as a criminal defence lawyer and the frustration of working inside systems shaped by privilege, bias, and entrenched gender expectations. Together, they discuss how women are often expected to tone down assertiveness, how everyday sexism shows up through behaviours like mansplaining and unwanted physical cues, and how that cumulative pressure can be exhausting.

The conversation moves into what freedom looks like in practice: creating time and space to think, recover, and create. Lulu shares why retreats can be transformational for women and why confidence, permission, and self-trust are often the real barriers—not capability. They also explore how leadership and workplace norms could shift by valuing listening as much as speaking, making room for diverse opinions, and moving away from rigid “command and control” approaches. The episode closes with reflections on how cultural change—at home, at work, and in society—requires rewriting inherited rules so that more people can thrive.

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Mandy Hickson, a former Royal Air Force Tornado GR4 pilot, joins Joanne Lockwood to talk about being one of the first women allowed to fly fast jets on the front line and what it meant to build a career in a strongly male-coded culture.

They explore the difference between fitting in and belonging, including the pressure to become “one of the boys,” the realities of life on deployment, and the impact of subtle bullying and exclusion. Mandy reflects on learning to hold onto her identity and authenticity while still succeeding in an intense performance environment.

The conversation also widens into culture change: how rules and policies can shift faster than mindsets, how unconscious bias shapes expectations from childhood to the workplace, and why meaningful progress often requires those with privilege and power to actively support change.

Joanne shares parts of her own transition experience, including the relief of living without secrecy, the importance of visibility and storytelling, and the challenges of accessing adequate gender-related healthcare support. The episode closes with Mandy’s reflections on confidence, changing priorities across life stages, and how her book and speaking work aim to inspire others to follow their own path.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with Mindy Gibbins-Klein about what it really takes to create a more level playing field so more people can be inspired and, crucially, feel able to speak up.

They explore how opportunity and access are often left to chance, and why intentional action matters in environments like conferences, publishing, recruitment, and media. Mindy and Joanne discuss allyship as a deliberate practice: noticing who is missing, creating space, amplifying voices, and taking responsibility for changing patterns that otherwise repeat by default.

The conversation also covers how people can become more thoughtful about language and impact, including acknowledging mistakes, apologising, and building psychological safety through everyday choices. Both share personal reflections on acceptance, belonging, and connection, including Mindy’s experience as the parent of a transgender son and Joanne’s experience of rebuilding relationships through openness and dialogue.

The episode ends with practical encouragement: focus on what you can influence, act with intention, and keep going even when traction feels slow—because small, consistent actions can compound into meaningful change.

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Peter Edge joins Joanne Lockwood to explore what happens when organisations fail to notice, capture, and transfer the expertise that keeps work moving. Using stories from policing, education, the NHS and specialist manufacturing, Peter illustrates how “lost knowledge” isn’t abstract—it shows up as cost, disrupted performance, demoralised teams, and repeated onboarding that drains leaders’ time.

They discuss why knowledge often walks out of the door unnoticed: leaders who don’t listen, cultures that treat people as replaceable cogs, appraisal and performance systems that miss real contribution, and environments where people hoard expertise because they don’t feel trusted or safe. The conversation connects knowledge retention to staff retention, succession planning, and the practical discipline of identifying single points of failure through simple risk assessment.

The episode also touches on how COVID and remote/hybrid work changed informal learning and “water-cooler” mentoring, and how organisations might rethink communication, trust, and flexibility so that learning and connection aren’t dependent on being in an office. Throughout, the focus remains on building workplace systems that recognise value, support progression, and prevent critical expertise from disappearing.

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