What is the meaning of innocence in a world that's full of monsters? Join Abigail and Sam as they discuss mirroring characters within this episode's narrative arc, as well try to define what exactly constitutes "evil" in a world that the Winchester brothers are learning is more morally gray than they were raised to believe.

Content warnings for discussion of assault.

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