Patric Gagne is a sociopath, but she doesn’t fit the stereotype.

From a violent kid, to a PhD and author - we track the unusual story of a sociopath who learned to be 'good'.

Plus, there's been some controversy and questions about the veracity of her PhD - so, we fact checked it.

This episode was first released in May 2024.

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