Reality TV meets prestige comedy as Rob Cesternino sits down with Jeff Rosenberg, producer and director on Hacks, to break down the making of the show’s Amazing Race-themed season 5 episode. Rosenberg—himself a dedicated reality TV superfan—shares how the creative team brought the energy and authenticity of The Amazing Race into the world of scripted TV, blending hilarious challenges, familiar production quirks, and genuine fan appreciation.

Rob and Jeff dive into how Hacks’ creators became hooked on The Amazing Race, why the memorable cheese wheel challenge made the cut, and how working with the actual Amazing Race crew—including host Phil Keoghan—helped capture the right spirit. The conversation also peels back the curtain on how the episode built both emotional stakes and comedic beats, using reality tropes to deepen the relationship between Deborah and her daughter DJ.

Highlights from their discussion include:

How does a show like Hacks pay tribute to—and poke fun at—Survivor, Big Brother, and Amazing Race while crafting its own story? Could a future celebrity Amazing Race really work, and would Jeff or Rob survive it? Explore the wild ride behind Hacks’ hit episode and the reality TV obsessions fueling it.

Catch the full conversation for behind-the-scenes insights, fan debates, and more reality TV crossover fun!

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